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Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: AlanFor these super rare cards of these Jewish players, I'm curious do we know how many (graded or ungraded) cards of each of these exist ????? Moe Berg - 1929 Portraits and Action R316 Sammy Bohne - exhibit PC back card Andy Cohen - 1933 Worch Cigar Minors Sid Cohen - 1928 Zeenuts 128 Phil Cooney - 1909-11 Obak T212 Barney Dreyfuss - 1910 Tip Top Bread Izzy Goldstein - 1934 Diamond Match Co. Silver Border Levy - 1888 SF Hess Moxie Manuel - 1910 Old Mill T210 547 Ed Mensor - 1913 Pirates Voskamps Solly Mishkin - Zeenut Barney Pelty - 1903-11 Sporting Life Cabinets W600 Guy Zinn - 1914 Baltimore Orioles News Thanks. Alan

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: MattOutside of checking the PSA and SGC population reports, I'm not sure how else you would know. Oy Vey...

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: Max WederAlan While Cooney may be in high demand, I wouldn't say he's rare. Even in my limitd Obak experience, I have seen many of his cards offered on ebay. Perhaps others with greater exposure to Obaks can confirm Max

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: JayWhat happened to Stephen Behel in the Old Judge set? Was he posthumously converted to Catholicism? BTW, Levy is also in the Old Judge set and is still scarcer there.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: barrysloateAlan- one of the collectors who posts on this board has an 1873 CdV of Lipman Pike, and it is almost certainly unique. Now that's a rare card. He is in full uniform as a member of Baltimore.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: barrysloateJay- there's always been a question whether Behel was in fact Jewish. And what about Chief Roseman (okay, I admit I don't have too many Jewish friends named Chief)?

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: JayBarry--The thing I don't understand is how you can determine the religion of these players when for some you don't even know their first names. Fischer on the Maroons is one example--no first name known, sounds Jewish to me.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: barrysloateI know- lots of players sound Jewish, such as T206's Meyers and Zimmerman. But they're not. I think many early players would have hidden that fact, so I don't believe we know with certainty who all of them were.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: BobAgree with Max. The 1910 and 1911 Obak Cooneys are available in the same numbers as the other cards in the set but you have to pay a premium for a nice one.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: BobAdd the T207 Pelty for a very tough Jewish player and the P2 Sweet cap pin of Pelty is also no walk in the park.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: leonFischer was circumcised therefore it is very possible he was Jewish. I went to his Bar Mitzvah too..... I also heard there is skepticism about Behel being Jewish....Didn't Rich Klein know something about that? This might be my scarcest Jewish player card....from good ole Tik.....several years ago at a National. <img src="http://www.luckeycards.com/personaln321levy.jpg">

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: Frank WakefieldA few years ago I won a lot of a dozen or so ZeeNuts on eBay. I immediately paid for the auction. The next day I get an email from a fellow up north, New York I think. He was desperate to have the 1928 Sid Cohen ZeeNut that was in the lot. He said name a price. I told him I'd like to wait until I got them, before I sold one. He emailed back saying he and his son were close to completing ZeeNuts, this Cohen was one of the few he lacked, and he'd pay $100 for it. It had typical wear... I emailed a couple of collectors who I thought knew more about ZeeNuts than I, and they both thought it not a rare card, that Cohen was Jewish, but not a rarity. So I emailed the guy and said I'd sell, $100 instantly appeared in my Paypal account. And I sent the card out the same day. My recollection is that I scanned the card before I mailed it. I'll post that if I find it. Frank.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: AnonymousJohnny Kling T206, wasn't he Jewish?

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: AlanFrank - I'd like to see that scan of the Cohen zeenut. Thanks. There is ongoing debate as to whether or not Johnny Kling was Jewish. The "Jewish experts" are disagreeing. Sort of like the argument about what grading company is the best <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> Alan

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: Frank Wakefield1928 ZeeNut, Sid Cohen. Dug around and found my old disk of card images... <img src="http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/greatwake/CohenSidSealsZee-Nut.png"> So is it a difficult card to locate?

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: Mark EvansI'm not sure whether these "bad boys" belong on Alan's list but I found them tough: 1924 Diaz Cigarettes Weinert 1936 WWG Weintraub And, perhaps not quite as tough: 1931-32 4-on-1 with Goldman 1937 4-on-1 with Weintraub T204 Pelty Tattoo Orbit Levey

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: boxingcardmanI am not so sure that the cards named all are rarer per se than the others in the issues but some of those issues are very tough and the Jewish players are especially in demand so they tend not to leave collections very often once they are picked up. That may account for a perception of extra scarcity in regard to cards that are not known to have been short printed or otherwise limited in their distribution. My Solly Mishkin, for example, ain't going anywhere soon.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: Mark EvansThe only card I have on Alan's list is Dreyfuss (SGC 30) and I expect him to be staring out from my curio cabinet for the duration. Mark

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: Rhett YeakleyA couple Jewish guys... <img src="http://www.starsofthediamond.com/10obakcooney.JPG"> <img src="http://www.starsofthediamond.com/27zeeweinert.JPG"> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/cameopepsin/27zeereese.JPG"> -Rhett

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Posted By: JayRhett--Cooney does not sound Jewish to me. Perhaps a member of one of the lost tribes of Israel.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: AlanGreat !!! Thank you both for those scans !!! To all - Lets see some more images of cards of rare Jewish players !!!

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: William Brumbach"Rhett--Cooney does not sound Jewish to me. Perhaps a member of one of the lost tribes of Israel." <img src="http://home.comcast.net/~valerierx/2003_Jewish_Major_Leaguers_020_Cohen-Cooney_02.jpg">

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: boxingcardmanBenny Kauf strip card, 1927 Zeenut Jimmy Reese, boxers Abe Simon and Art Lasky. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1192069856.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1192069882.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1192069918.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1192069938.JPG">

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: David SmithI have shown this card a couple of times before. My collection isn't as large or as valuable as a LOT of people's on this board but this is the one card that I am proud of because it is from a fairly rare set and was uncatalogued until a few years ago. David <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1192072677.JPG">

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: PaulYou should be able to find the R316 Berg on ebay a few times a year. I don't think it is particularly rare, though it is fairly popular.

Rare cards of Jewish players

Posted By: shelly jaffeJewish Baseball Players In Alphabetical Order Player Name Debut Position Notes Cal Abrams 04-20-1949 OF Lloyd Allen 09-01-1969 P Converted to Judaism Ruben Amaro 06-08-1991 OF Jewish Mother Morrie Arnovich 09-14-1936 OF Brad Ausmus 07-28-1993 C Jewish Mother Jesse Baker 09-14-1919 SS Brian Bark 07-06-1995 P Ross Baumgarten 08-16-1978 P Jose Bautista 04-09-1988 P Jewish Mother Joe Bennett 07-05-1923 3B Moe Berg 06-27-1923 C Bob Berman 06-04-1918 C Cy Block 09-07-1942 3B Ron Blomberg 09-10-1969 DH Sam Bohne 09-09-1916 2B Henry Bostick 05-18-1915 3B Lou Boudreau 09-09-1938 SS Jewish Mother Ryan Braun 05-25-2007 3B Craig Breslow 07-23-2005 P Louis Brower 06-13-1931 SS Conrad Cardinal 04-11-1963 P Harry Chozen 09-21-1937 C Tony Cogan 04-02-2001 P Alta Cohen 04-15-1931 OF Andy Cohen 06-06-1926 2B Hy Cohen 04-17-1955 P Syd Cohen 09-18-1934 P Dick Conger 04-22-1940 P Phil Cooney 09-27-1905 3B Ed Corey 07-02-1918 P Bill Cristall 09-03-1901 P Harry Danning 07-30-1933 C Ike Danning 09-21-1928 C Harry Eisenstat 05-19-1935 P Mike Epstein 09-16-1966 1B Reuben Ewing 06-21-1921 SS Al Federoff 09-27-1951 2B Eddie Feinberg 09-11-1938 SS Harry Feldman 09-10-1941 P Leo Fishel 05-03-1899 P Matt Ford 04-02-2003 P Happy Foreman 09-03-1924 P Micah Franklin 05-13-1997 OF Jewish Mother Moe Franklin 08-12-1941 SS Milt Galatzer 06-25-1933 OF Mark Gilbert 07-21-1985 OF Joe Ginsberg 09-15-1948 C Keith Glauber 09-08-1998 P Jonah Goldman 09-22-1928 SS Izzy Goldstein 04-24-1932 P Jake Goodman 05-02-1878 1B Greg Goossen 09-03-1965 1B Jewish Father Sid Gordon 09-11-1941 OF Herb Gorman 04-19-1952 OF John Grabow 09-14-2003 P Shawn Green 09-28-1993 OF Adam Greenberg 07-07-2005 OF Hank Greenberg 09-14-1930 1B Eric Helfand 09-04-1993 C Steve Hertz 04-21-1964 3B Jason Hirsh 08-12-2006 P Ken Holtzman 09-04-1965 P Joe Horlen 09-04-1961 P Converted to Judaism Skip Jutze 09-01-1972 C Jewish Father Harry Kane 08-08-1902 P Gabe Kapler 09-20-1998 OF Herb Karpel 04-19-1946 P Alan Koch 07-26-1963 P Brian Kowitz 06-04-1995 OF Sandy Koufax 06-24-1955 P Barry Latman 09-10-1957 P Jim Levey 09-17-1930 SS Alan Levine 06-22-1996 P Jesse Levis 04-24-1992 C Mike Lieberthal 06-30-1994 C Jewish Father Lou Limmer 04-22-1951 1B Andrew Lorraine 07-17-1994 P Elliott Maddox 04-07-1970 OF Converted to Judaism Cy Malis 08-17-1934 P Moxie Manuel 09-25-1905 P Duke Markell 09-06-1951 P Jason Marquis 06-06-2000 P Ed Mayer 09-15-1957 P Erskine Mayer 09-04-1912 P Jewish Father Sam Mayer 09-14-1915 OF Ed Mensor 07-05-1905 P Mike Milchin 05-14-1996 P Jewish Father Norm Miller 09-11-1965 OF Buddy Myer 09-26-1925 2B Sam Nahem 10-02-1938 P David Newhan 06-04-1999 2B Jeff Newman 06-30-1976 C Converted to Judaism Barney Pelty 08-20-1903 P Jay Pike 08-27-1877 OF Lip Pike 05-09-1876 OF Jake Pitler 05-30-1917 2B Scott Radinsky 04-09-1990 P Jewish Mother Steve Ratzer 10-05-1980 P Jimmy Reese 04-19-1930 2B Al Richter 09-23-1951 SS Dave Roberts 07-06-1969 P Jewish Father Saul Rogovin 04-28-1949 P Al Rosen 09-10-1947 3B Goody Rosen 09-14-1937 OF Harry Rosenberg 07-15-1930 OF Lou Rosenberg 05-22-1923 2B Steve Rosenberg 06-04-1988 P Max Rosenfeld 04-21-1931 OF Si Rosenthal 09-08-1925 OF Wayne Rosenthal 06-26-1991 P Marv Rotblatt 07-04-1948 P Larry Rothschild 09-11-1981 P Mickey Rutner 09-11-1947 3B Mike Saipe 06-25-1998 P Ike Samuels 08-03-1895 3B Roger Samuels 07-20-1988 P Moe Savransky 04-23-1954 P Al Schacht 09-18-1919 P Sid Schacht 04-23-1950 P Hal Schacker 05-09-1945 P Heinie Scheer 04-20-1922 2B Richie Scheinblum 09-01-1965 OF Mike Schemer 08-08-1945 1B Scott Schoeneweis 04-07-1999 P Jewish Mother Bill Schwarz 08-13-1914 C Art Shamsky 04-17-1965 OF Dick Sharon 05-13-1973 OF Jewish Father Larry Sherry 04-17-1958 P Norm Sherry 04-12-1959 C Harry Shuman 09-14-1942 P Al Silvera 06-12-1955 OF Fred Sington 09-23-1934 OF Mose Solomon 09-30-1923 OF Bill Starr 08-23-1935 C Jeff Stember 08-05-1980 P Adam Stern 07-07-2005 OF Steve Stone 04-08-1971 P Bud Swartz 07-12-1947 P Don Taussig 04-23-1958 OF Bob Tufts 08-10-1981 P Converted to Judaism Eddie Turchin 05-09-1943 3B Steve Wapnick 04-14-1990 P Justin Wayne 09-03-2002 P Phil Weintraub 09-05-1933 1B Ed Wineapple 09-15-1929 P Steve Yeager 08-02-1972 C Converted to Judaism Larry Yellen 09-26-1963 P Kevin Youkilis 05-15-2004 3B Guy Zinn 09-11-1911 OF Eddie Zosky 09-02-1991 SS Jewish Mother Player Name Debut Position Notes Jewish Baseball Players