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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>Ok...here's the first Plank card I've come across...as well as a Mathewson card. Both are Standard Caramels..<br /><br /><a href="http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x291/skydash55/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x291/skydash55/</a>

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>the plot thickens...they're not all t206's. Uh oh. the t206 plank is very valuable whereas an e93 caramel plank is marginally valuable...yet very desirable!<br /><br />pete ullman in mn

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>Like I said....just the first one I've found...Who knows...

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>The rare Eddie Plank card is in the T206 set, and it is a portrait with a blue background. That is an E93, which is desirable because Plank is a famous player in the Hall of Fame...but it is not rare. The Mathewson is from the same set and is a popular card with collectors.

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Skydash,<br /> If you had posted a T206 Plank as nice as the Tintops, you would have been responsible for several strokes.... Glad you didn't hurt anybody, as it would be tough to explain to there relatives... E93's are nice, but I'm a T206 guy at heart.. Be well Brian

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Even if there isn't a t206 Plank found, or a Magie, this is still an incredible collection. The Tin Tops alone are incredibly important, even more so given that there is a Jackson and a Thorpe.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>A couple very nice cards to own for sure. But I'm wondering guys if Sky has any T206's? I know in the first pics he showed were a couple T205's...he may have a variety of all sorts of stuff <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>1200 cards of t206 size is significant no matter how many different sets they are from.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>I will take the mystery out of it for you. Here are the Mfgs. I have on the list:<br />American Caramel<br />El Principe De Gales<br />Polar Bear Tobacco<br />John H. Dockman&Sons<br />Sweet Caporal 150/350/460<br />Old Mill<br />Piedmont Cigarettes/Gold Bordered-400 series/150 series/350<br />Standard Caramel<br />

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>American Caramel<br />El Principe De Gales<br />Polar Bear Tobacco<br />John H. Dockman&Sons<br />Sweet Caporal 150/350/460<br />Old Mill<br />Piedmont Cigarettes/Gold Bordered-400 series/150 series/350<br />Standard Caramel<br /><br /><br />E90's...maybe<br />EPDG, Polar Bear, Sweet Cap, Old Mill, Piedmont T206's..<br />T205s...<br />E92's and E93's....all pretty desireable if in fact the E90's are what the American Caramels are.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>You have a combination of candy cards and cigarette cards.<br /><br />Certainly the predominant brands you have are Sweet Caporal and Piedmont. You don't have any rare T206 backs, although the EPDG's are a bit tougher.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>What??? No Cullivan's Fireside??? <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Come on Dan, I know you were hoping for a Hustler t206<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>An incredible find indeed! As Jay said...the TT's alone are incredible. The breakdown seems more realistic when thinking of a period "collection". To have all the T206 backs would be odd and to have the rarities of plank/magie would imply the collector was quite dedicated as well re. T206's. Keep those scans coming...this is fun.<br /><br />pete ullman

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Posted By: <b>Plank card</b><p>Sky,<br /><br />If you want, you can email me any dark images and I will brighten them up and sharpen them, then email them back to you. Then you can re-upload them. If so, then send them as attachments or in the email to: pspector@optonline.net<br /><br />Paul S

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Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p>Sky, <br /><br />Congrats on the cards. Very cool find! <br /><br /><br />Josh

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Posted By: <b>Marc</b><p>If Sky turns up a T206 Wagner, T206 Plank, 1914 Baltimore News Babe Ruth, and a T206 Cobb w/ the red background and Cobb back, this board will go into meltdown. Honestly, I'm not surprised as I'm a big optimist whenever it comes to older cards. I truly believe there are quite a few collections like this one and better still yet to be discovered. Some may be hidden within secret compartments in old attics, barns, abandoned dwellings, etc. Maybe I'm crazy, but I still believe there is another raw future PSA 8 T206 Wagner out there unknown to the world. It is what keeps me collecting.

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Posted By: <b>Jimmy</b><p>There are still collections to be found out there, I tend to come across at least one good find a year. These are some wonderful pieces and look forward to seeing more pictures. This is the reason I still look and hope I can expand my part-time business with a find of my own.<br /><br />Jimmy

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>"If Sky turns up a T206 Wagner, T206 Plank, 1914 Baltimore News Babe Ruth, and a T206 Cobb w/ the red background and Cobb back, this board will go into meltdown. Honestly, I'm not surprised as I'm a big optimist whenever it comes to older cards. I truly believe there are quite a few collections like this one and better still yet to be discovered. Some may be hidden within secret compartments in old attics, barns, abandoned dwellings, etc. Maybe I'm crazy, but I still believe there is another raw future PSA 8 T206 Wagner out there unknown to the world. It is what keeps me collecting."<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I have found 3 Cobbs so far that fit that description....who is the company that made them??

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>The super-rare and valuable T-206 Ty Cobb portrait with red background has an advertising brand on the back called "Ty Cobb: King of the Smoking Tobacco World". One of those in approximately the condition of your E93 Plank sold last week for 60k.<br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>Skydash, if you happen to come across a small hand-beaten gold cup showing the remmants of something reddish in its depths, that glows ethereally when you touch it, and you're hearing a deep fatherly voice urging you to save the world.....well, I would not be at all surprised! <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>.<br /><br /><br />Daniel

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Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>Skydash,<br /><br />Care to share the gentleman's name who put all of this work into collecting the cards that you now have the pleasure of owning?<br /><br />Robert

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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Sky,<br /><br /><br />I wouldn't give out any names, yours or anyone else connected with you, until the cards are secured and insured. (Probably not even then.) <br /><br />I understand us all wanting to know more, but this is a public message board. <br /><br />(Besides, as someone else already pointed out, giving out names might make it easier for that guy with the suitcase full of cash to find him!)<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>Jim VB,<br /><br />You might be right about that. Good point. <br /><br />Speaking of which. I don't remember seeing you around here before these few threads. Are you a collector?<br /><br />Robert

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Guys, you really do need lay off with wise cracks and snide comments. We are dealing with someone that doesn't know a whole lot about cards and all you are doing is making a stressful situation even worse for him.<br /><br />If you don't have anything constructive or positive to add to this or his others posts, please don't post then.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>Peter Spaeth</b><p>Discovering some cool and valuable baseball cards is "stressful"? Interesting perspective, Jay.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>I'ts ok....Geez,If I was a collector,I'd have probably posted everything that's already been written at least twice. I can assure you I'm as dumbfounded as a monkey making love to a football. My father-in-law had this collection before me.He died a few years back.......and here's the killer....This whole collection has been sitting in a sdb since then!I hadn't given it much thought until my wife asked about it the other day,so we went over and picked it up,and that's when I made the initial post regarding an appraisal! Thats it!! And yes,my Father in law was very smart in protecting it as he did.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>try to imagine that you are not a collector and you are trying to figure out what you have. You are getting barraged with various questions and requests for various cards, etc that you aren't quite sure what they are asking for. Then to top it off, you get idiots asking if he's found the Holy Grail and other nonsense. <br /><br />I'm sure he's enjoying it too, learning that what he is worth a small fortune, but at the same time, learning you have won the lottery is also stressful.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Guys,<br /> I have chatted with the owner through email for a couple of days, and I advised him to stop posting pictures on the board. I suggested he contact one of the major auction houses if he was interested in selling, and if not, to get a big safety deposit box and a big insurance policy. <br /> I would love to view the collection as much as anyone, but I don't think exposing it at this point would be in his best interest. Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS Please don't ask me for his name or his email, because I will not disclose that information.

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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Robert A,<br /><br />Long time collector. Relatively new to vintage. Very new to this board. <br /><br /><br />Jay, <br /><br />I suggested that he not give out any info, on a public message board, that could lead to him being tracked down. How do you categorize that: "wise cracks" or "snide comments"?

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Posted By: <b>Peter Spaeth</b><p>I could use a little of that stress myself.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Jim that's perfectly sound advice.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>Jim,<br /><br />Welcome to vintage and to the board.<br /><br />Rob

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>You said this:<br /><br />"If you don't have anything constructive or positive to add to this or his others posts, please don't post then."<br /><br />But aren't you the one who said you yourself don't want to have postive posts on this board as it will make money for me? Just trying to understand......Seems like you are contradicting yourself again....

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Posted By: <b>rand</b><p>this is the 1 and only time Jay has been civil and constructive. i laughed out load when i read his quote on being constructive. that's calling the kettle black if i ever saw an example! be careful Leon, he may put one of your quotes on the bottom of his posts about how to treat people.

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Posted By: <b>Marc</b><p>Jay, I don't know you and you don't know me. I certainly do not appreciate your insinuation that I and others are 'idiots' for asking about certain cards skydash may or may not own. That is not professional on your part. I was just trying to help him sort the most valuable cards in an effort to educate him. That way he doesn't go off and sell something valuable for next to nothing in terms of the subjects value. Keep your snide comments to yourself if you can't say something constructive or nice yourself.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Marc, the comment was directed towards E Daniel others that have made ridiculous comments about what might be in there. In your case, if you had read ever post sky has made, you would have seen the one where he lists all the different backs on the cards. Asking about a Balt News Ruth makes no sense given what is in the collection and where it originated. The card would have stuck out like a sore thumb amongst all the Colgans and standard size T and E cards.<br /><br />Geez Leon, I'm helpful and all you can done is try and inflame the situation between us. You've begged and pleaded with me to be civil and when I am, you prove to be the one that tries to stir things up. So who really is the problem then when you go out of your way to make a post like that? I have no interest in lining your pockets, but I will make exceptions from time to time, such as with Sean, or someone like this.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>Hey .....as I've said many times before...I TRULY appreciate all the feedback you guys have provided(the holy grail joke was hilarious)!! Please don't let my lack of knowledge regarding this collection provide any ammo. for anyone to get pissed at anyone else.My lifelong motto has always been"if you can't have fun doing it,don't do it" I know it's a simplistic outlook,but it has served me well up to this point.<br />This has been a real eye-opener for me,and I feel like everyone has been honest and a straight shooter.Thank you. I know if I were reading something like this I would try to be as helpful as possible...but I might let a little"smart-ass" show through as well.So...keep it coming....I can use the help!

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Posted By: <b>rand</b><p>hey skydash. it would be great to see more pix as you go through the group. from a collectors point of view. thx

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Posted By: <b>Marc</b><p>Skydash, the Holy Grail wasn't meant as a joke. This is referring to the T206 Honus Wagner. It is referred to as the "Holy Grail" of baseball cards, simply because it is the most valuable and most sought after baseball card today. I however, feel a little "smartass" showing through is unnecessary and juvenile and i could care less after that. But, that's just me I guess. Carry on....

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>"I however, feel a little "smartass" showing through is unnecessary and juvenile and i could care less after that. But, that's just me I guess. Carry on...."<br />If you interpreted my statement by me referring to the "holy grail" statement as "smart-ass" then I apologise,as this wasn't my intent. I was referring only to my own particular personality.I can tend to be that way from time to time.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>Skydash seems a real nice fellow, has written rather openly and eloquently and with the fun and excitement reflecting such an amazing experience, and I try a little humour.....boy Jay, you are one hardass pain in the ass.<br /><br />Lets see, THREE Cobb/Cobb backs, forget the thorpie and Jacko colgans.<br />I would say that most collectors would have thought the Holy Grail a more likely find!!! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />All hail the new arbiter of what can and can't be spoken on this board. Jay Behrens, your chariot waits humbly by. Scoff Scoff Scoff.<br /><br /><br />Daniel

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Geeez, I love how people can't even keep facts straight. Where in the world did he say that he has 3 Cobb/Cobb cards? The guy is dealing with a lot and all I did was ask that stupid questions stop. Obviously, yours was the dumbest and you apparently can't even keep straight what he has, so spare us your spoutings. You are clueless, even you have facts in front of you.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>own way out of the warren.<br /><br />Skydash:<br /><br /><br />"Cobb cards August 9 2007, 12:06 PM <br /><br /><br />"If Sky turns up a T206 Wagner, T206 Plank, 1914 Baltimore News Babe Ruth, and a T206 Cobb w/ the red background and Cobb back, this board will go into meltdown. Honestly, I'm not surprised as I'm a big optimist whenever it comes to older cards. I truly believe there are quite a few collections like this one and better still yet to be discovered. Some may be hidden within secret compartments in old attics, barns, abandoned dwellings, etc. Maybe I'm crazy, but I still believe there is another raw future PSA 8 T206 Wagner out there unknown to the world. It is what keeps me collecting."<br /><br /><br />I have found 3 Cobbs so far that fit that description....who is the company that made them??<br />"<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Maybe you should learn to read before you write on this board!<br /><br /><br /><br />Daniel<br /><br /><br />edited title due to language......<br /><br />Edited by Leon, I myself wasn't aware that such paraphernalia was a naughty word. Now I do <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Maybe you need to take some English as a second language courses. You need to read closely the last part....who is the company that made them?<br /><br />Geez, where is our resident English teacher when we really need him <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br /><br /><br><br>The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>Leave it to this board to turn a great find into a pissing match....

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Posted By: <b>skydash55</b><p>Leave it to this board to turn a great find into a pissing match....<br /><br />I'm really sorry my post led to this...

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>There is a great jewish word for you Jay Behrens.<br />It's Putz.<br /><br />Everyone is laughing their ass off at you right now, so why don't you go find a sandpit to sit and drool in.<br /><br /><br />Daniel

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Let's get back on track.....I asked a question that could have incited something, so sorry for that,. but lets do get back on track now...This is a great find for our newest board member. No more insults...please take it to personal email if you must....Anymore will be deleted...

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Let's get back on track.....I asked a question that could have incited something, so sorry for that,. but lets do get back on track now...This is a great find for our newest board member. No more insults...please take it to personal email if you must....Anymore will be deleted...