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Archive 01-27-2006 07:01 PM

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Posted By: <b>Daniel Bretta</b><p>I'm not even sure what to say about this "Cobb" card.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-TY-COBB-ANTIQUE-VINTAGE-BASEBALL-CARD-4_W0QQitemZ8757853016QQcategoryZ86841QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-TY-COBB-ANTIQUE-VINTAGE-BASEBALL-CARD-4_W0QQitemZ8757853016QQcategoryZ86841QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem</a><br />

Archive 01-27-2006 07:26 PM

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Well it's Ty Cobb, alright!

Archive 01-27-2006 07:46 PM

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Posted By: <b>V117Collector</b><p>I can't find any info on this card/set, the closest thing is animal cards.<br /><br />Yep! it's an Cobb card alright...<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />"Always looking for 1923 V117 Maple Crispette cards"

Archive 01-27-2006 07:53 PM

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I'm guessing it is a picture of Cobb pasted to an Arm & Hammer card. <br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

Archive 01-27-2006 08:20 PM

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Posted By: <b>V117Collector</b><p>I email the seller and asked for new scans...<br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1138421776.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1138421821.JPG"> <br /><br />The seller said the scans are the best he can do!

Archive 01-27-2006 09:16 PM

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Posted By: <b>WayneGrove</b><p>I think that Jay hit it right on. It looks like a picture of Cobb taken from either a Spaulding or Reach Guide or some other type of publication and glued onto a non-sport card. The back is the back of an Arm & Hammer Soda card set that is cataloged in the ACC as J16 Beautiful Flowers.

Archive 01-27-2006 10:17 PM

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Posted By: <b>Daniel Bretta</b><p>Oh, I know what it is, it just left me speechless that someone could be so dumb as to think that Arm and Hammer would put a baseball player on one of their Flower cards or that someone would be dumb enough to bid on it.<br /><br />Well someone was dumb^H^H^H^H^H^Uneducated enough to bid on it.

Archive 01-27-2006 11:46 PM

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>gotta love the seller's name D and R Garbage Can. Doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence in me in anything they sell. I'm assuming that the D and R stand for Dumb and Retarded.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

Archive 01-28-2006 08:01 AM

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Posted By: <b>Brad Green</b><p><br /><br />The Ty Cobb card on the left in the eBay auction mentioned at the top of this thread is from an edition of the Sports Card News in 1992. (See link below for similar cards.) The back of the Cobb card in that auction, however, does not match the back of the card from the Sports Card News magazine. The cards from the Sports Card News sell for only $1 or $2.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/MINT-Baseball-Card-Sheet-Ripken-Tobacco-Cards-Estate_W0QQitemZ8738921276QQcategoryZ213QQssPageNa meZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/MINT-Baseball-Card-Sheet-Ripken-Tobacco-Cards-Estate_W0QQitemZ8738921276QQcategoryZ213QQssPageNa meZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a><br /><br />The eBay item # is 8738921276, in the event that the above link does not work.<br /><br /><br />

Archive 01-31-2006 04:53 PM

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Maybe this guy thinks flour is spelled F L O W E R ... kinda like they can't spell guarantee, as has been sagely pointed out. I've emailed the one bidder.

Archive 01-31-2006 05:21 PM

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Posted By: <b>Brad Green</b><p><br /><br />I was out of town when I made the post above and could not upload a front/back picture of the 1991/1992 Tobacco cards from the Sports Card News. But, here's Lefty's Sports Card News card from 1992. There was never an authentic card of Lefty Grove that looked anything like this card. I assume the same is true of Ty Cobb.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.bandkgreen.net/lefty_grove/1992_tobacco.jpg"><br /><br />

Archive 01-31-2006 06:39 PM

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Posted By: <b>Genaro</b><p>THIS AN ORIGINAL ARM &HAMMER BEAUTIFUL FLOWER TY COBB #4 CARD.CARD HAS BEEN TRIMED AND HAS A CREASE AND A TEAR AS SEEN IN PICTURE BUT STILL A REALLY NICE ADDITION TO ANY COLLECTION. THANK YOU FOR BIDDING AND GOOD LUCK DAVE<br /><br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />On Jan-28-06 at 06:05:08 PST, seller added the following information:<br /><br />a few people has written and said this is not original arm and hammer i really don't know so bid at your own descretion or if you bid and wish to cancell your bid thats all right to. i'm not here to rip you off i know nothing about baseball especially older ones i really do appreciate all the info people give me but at least say it respectfully please thank you dave

Archive 01-31-2006 07:47 PM

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Posted By: <b>darren</b><p>I emailed this seller the day of his listing to let him know his card was a fake. He responded stating that I was attempting to ruin his reputation so that I could get the card at a rock bottom price and flip it for big dollars.

Archive 06-30-2007 12:01 PM

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Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>Along with a few other choice counterfeits;<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/REALLY-OLD-TY-COBB-BASEBALL-CARD-BEAUTIFUL-FLOWER-CARD_W0QQitemZ250135623579QQihZ015QQcategoryZ86841 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/REALLY-OLD-TY-COBB-BASEBALL-CARD-BEAUTIFUL-FLOWER-CARD_W0QQitemZ250135623579QQihZ015QQcategoryZ86841 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

Archive 06-30-2007 12:24 PM

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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Pete Rose would have made more sense on a flower card.

Archive 06-30-2007 01:22 PM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>But it's had a year and a half to appreciate in value!

Archive 06-30-2007 01:24 PM

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Posted By: <b>Joseph</b><p><i>Pete Rose would have made more sense on a flower card.</i><br /><br /><br />Flower card set (FL209)...Charlie Root, Randy Bush, Earl Huckleberry, Les Moss, Ron Reed, Ken Berry, and (sic) Ted Lilly, and (sorry) Juan Encarnacion<br /><br /><br />

Archive 06-30-2007 01:30 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>and the good folks here, the occurrences where I found dealers to that were nice, helpful, and trustworthy/honest were few and far apart enough as to leave me speechless!<br /><br />All I'm saying is that these kind of Ebay postings don't surprise me at all in the collectables marketplace. Haven't surprised me for many many years, and unfortunately, I still assume most are rogues until found to be otherwise...It was crappy folks that drive me away in my teen years and I was lucky to find my way back via this Board.<br /><br />thanks for posting though...all information is helpful!<br /><br />

Archive 06-30-2007 07:18 PM

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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Joseph:<br /><br />Ted Lilly occured to me as soon as I hit the respond button, but that Encarnacion is a keeper!<br /><br />(Gawd, now I'm going to be up all night trying to come up with more...and not a Baseball Encyclopedia in sight! <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />*edited to say: Does Don Moss(i)count


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