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Archive 12-15-2006 07:47 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>As most you know, this is the toughest Piedmont back and tougher to find than many<br /> of the T206 backs such as CYCLE, EPDG, Brn. HINDU, OLD MILL, TOLSTOI, etc.<br /> <br />I will start with my 3 cards.....<br /><br />Let's see how many we can display.....show us your PIEDMONT 460/42 cards ?<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/fp46042.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/bp46042.jpg">

Archive 12-15-2006 08:06 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i have 2...<br /><br />PSA 3 cy seymour, portrait<br />PSA 2 harry mcintyre, bk & chi<br /><br />edited to say: i am having a senior moment at age 32, i actually think i traded the PSA 2 mcintyre to someone else...BUT, i did own it up until recently.

Archive 12-15-2006 08:17 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166113020.JPG">

Archive 12-15-2006 08:33 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Great going HAL<br /><br />Scot Reader is certainly correct regarding this card being a "Super Print".<br /><br />Now, if I can only find a Red Cobb with a SOVEREIGN 460 back ?<br /><br />I think it might be a tad tougher than this "baby" you have on display.<br /><br />Thanks Hal for sharing it with us.<br /><br /><br />T-Rex TED

Archive 12-15-2006 08:41 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />Currently have:<br /><br />Chase (Loving Cup)<br />Lajoie (With Bat)<br />Leifield (Batting)<br />Manning (Pitching)<br />Murphy (With Bat)<br />Steinfeldt (With Bat)<br /><br />All PSA 5 except Leifield and Chase, which are PSA 4.<br /><br />Had and sold:<br /><br />Leach (Bending)<br />Pelty (Vertical)<br /><br />Scot

Archive 12-15-2006 09:37 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Drew</b><p>Ted<br />I have a Joss pitching with the piedmont 460 fac 42. I didn't even know it was a fac 42 when I bought it many years ago.<br><br>Drew

Archive 12-15-2006 10:20 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>I found this one by accident. I didn't even know I had one. <br /><br />BB<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166120398.JPG">

Archive 12-15-2006 10:31 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166121026.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166121054.JPG">

Archive 12-15-2006 10:35 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166121289.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166121318.JPG">

Archive 12-15-2006 10:46 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i have found that a lot of P-42's have lighter blue printing on the back, versus a dark bold strike...interesting.

Archive 12-15-2006 10:47 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>DREW and BILL<br /><br />This is commonplace, that many do not realize that their T206 collections have a few of these<br />rare PIEDMONT 460/42 cards. When I broke up my 2nd set (520 cards) a year ago to start to<br /> collect only Piedmonts, I found two of these backs that I did not even realize I had.<br /><br />Just think about how many of these rare cards are out there in T206 sets that collectors are<br /> unaware of.<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 12-15-2006 11:30 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>NetJr</b><p>Piedmont 350-460- Factory 42 (Pelty, Vertical Photo, SGC 10)<br /><br />I notice someone mentioned they had one and sold it above, perhaps its the one that is in our set at cardtarget

Archive 12-15-2006 11:45 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>I have the following:<br /><br />Downey batting<br />Griffith batting<br />Lajoie batting<br />Sweeney catching<br />White (chi) follow through<br />Wiltse throwing<br /><br />most are good to very good with the Lajoie in a psa 4 holder

Archive 12-15-2006 12:11 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Michael,<br />You are right that a lot of the Piedmont 42s have light blue print. Another characteristic is that a disproportionate number of the ones that have dark blue print are off center to the right.<br />Scot

Archive 12-15-2006 01:08 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> Here is the list of my 42's:<br /><br />BAKERTHROW<br />COBBBAT OFF<br />COBBBAT OFF<br />CRAWFORDBAT<br />KLEINOWBOSTON<br />KONETCHYGL LOW<br />LATHAMPOR<br />LATHAMNY NAT<br />MANNINGPITCH<br />MATHEWSONDARK<br />MATHEWSONDCAP<br />MCINTYREBR&CH<br />OVERALLTHROW<br />PELTYVERT<br />SWEENEYTHROW<br />SEYMOURTHROW<br />SMITHCHI&BOS<br />SNODGRASSCATCH<br />WAGNERRIGHT<br />WHITECHI<br /><br /> I'm missing about 7-8, but can't locate my ungraded list, so I'll try to add them later.<br /><br /><br />Scot:<br />Here is the scan of the light versus dark<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166130446.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166130472.JPG">

Archive 12-15-2006 01:12 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>wow brian, between your BL collection & P-42's...that alone, is very imprsseive, what does your overall T206 collection look like?<br /><br />regards,<br />Michael

Archive 12-15-2006 01:35 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Michael,<br /> I have over 2100 T206's at the moment, and have been collecting rare backs for over 20 years. I'm in the process of building a T206 set with as many rare backs as possible. A super set is my goal, and it will be a life long pursuit. Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />You can see some of my set on the PSA Registry under Carolinabrights.

Archive 12-15-2006 01:41 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>shown in a prior thread on the subject:<br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/taslegal54/t206reulbach.jpg">

Archive 12-15-2006 02:38 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Judson Hamlin</b><p>I've got Stahl and Seymour (throw).<br /><br />Does anyone have data on T205's w/Piedmont 42s?

Archive 12-15-2006 02:54 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Judson Hamlin</b><p>Good luck on the tough back set. I stopped buying Piedmonts (except for a 42) in about 1993. Just because I enjoy making my collecting life difficult. Only 15 to go (plus the Big 4).<br />

Archive 12-15-2006 03:03 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Judson,<br /> I actually broke up my T206 set several yaers ago to start this crazy quest. I had every card but Wagner, and of course the Doyle, which when I started the set hadn't been found. I have owned 2 Magie's and 1 Plank(that I regret selling)otherwise the set is not to hard to collect. Good luck on your collecting goals. Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS If your bidding on rare backs on EBAY, you may want to LMK so we don't kill each other on cost.

Archive 12-16-2006 06:33 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>BRIAN and JUDD<br /><br />The 3 of us seem to think in similar ways. I broke up my set a year ago this month to....<br /> "enjoy making my collecting life difficult". But, I chose to put together a T206 set as a<br /> function of the three Series (150-350-460) and comprised of only Piedmont cards. It's<br />been a lot of fun to "complete" this set of 518 cards; but, certainly not as tough as the<br /> challenge you guys have in your pursuits. <br /><br />TED Z

Archive 12-16-2006 06:39 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>To date, from several surveys and the posts on this Thread, we have a<br /> total of 52 different cards with P460/42 backs.<br /><br />Included in this 52 are these 16 HOFers and Stars........<br /><br />Baker<br />Bender (trees)<br />Bender (no trees)<br />Chance (yellow)<br />Chase (dark cap)<br />Chase (trophy)<br />Cobb (red)<br />Cobb (bat off)<br />Crawford (bat)<br />Griffith (bat)<br />Jennings (one hand)<br />Jennings (dancing)<br />Joss (pitch)<br />Lajoie (bat)<br />Matthewson (dark cap)<br />CYoung (glove)<br /><br /><br />T-Rex TED

Archive 12-16-2006 08:26 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Jim Rivera</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />I have a few on the list of 52 but add M. Brown (chicago) to your list of 16. I'll send you a scan later

Archive 12-16-2006 09:58 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>Hi Brian-<br /><br />email sent, would love to chat.<br /><br />Best-<br />MS

Archive 12-16-2006 07:03 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks JIM....will do.<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 12-16-2006 07:09 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>UPDATED.....Piedmont 460/42 HOFers and Stars list<br /><br />Baker<br />Bender (trees)<br />Bender (no trees)<br />M. Brown (Chicago)<br />Chance (yellow)<br />Chase (dark cap)<br />Chase (trophy)<br />Cobb (red)<br />Cobb (bat off)<br />Crawford (bat)<br />Griffith (bat)<br />Jennings (one hand)<br />Jennings (dancing)<br />Joss (pitch)<br />Lajoie (bat)<br />Mathewson (dark cap)<br />CYoung (glove)<br />

Archive 12-16-2006 07:15 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Joey Settle</b><p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/benkenobi13/Vintage%20Tobacco%20Cards/T206Chance.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v146/benkenobi13/Vintage%20Tobacco%20Cards/T206_Chance_Fact42.jpg">

Archive 12-17-2006 04:56 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks, JOEY<br /><br />Your Chance card is the 4th one of the six "Super Prints" in the T206 set, that we<br />have accounted for with the Piedmont 460/42 back.<br /><br />We still need Chase (blue) and Evers (bat-Chicago) to complete these "Super Six".<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 12-17-2006 05:17 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> Here is my list of KNOWN 42'S:<br /><br />Red Ames (hands above head)<br />Home Run Baker (R) (HOF)<br />Chief Bender No Trees (HOF)<br />Bill Bradley (with bat)<br />Mordecai Brown Chicago (HOF)<br />Frank Chance Yellow Portrait (HOF)<br />Hal Chase Black Cap<br />Ty Cobb Red Portrait (HOF)<br />Ty Cobb Bat off Shoulder (HOF)<br />Wid Conroy (with bat)<br />Sam Crawford With Bat<br />Patsy Dougherty (arm in air)<br />Tom Downey (batting)<br />Kid Elberfeld (Wash., fielding)<br />Johnny Evers Chicago (yellow sky) (HOF)<br />Clark Griffith Batting (HOF)<br />Hughie Jennings Two Hands (HOF)<br />Walter Johnson Glove at Chest (R) (HOF)<br />Tim Jordan (Brooklyn, batting)<br />Addie Joss Hands at Chest (HOF)<br />Red Kleinow Boston<br />Ed Konetchy (glove near ground)<br />Nap Lajoie With Bat (HOF)<br />Arlie Latham<br />Tommy Leach (bending over)<br />Lefty Leifield (batting)<br />Rube Manning (pitching)<br />Christy Mathewson Dark Cap (HOF)<br />Harry McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)<br />George Mullin (with bat)<br />Danny Murphy (batting)<br />Charley O'Leary (hands on knees)<br />Orval Overall (hand face level)<br />Barney Pelty (vertical photo)<br />Ed Reulbach (no glove showing)<br />Germany Schaefer (Washington)<br />Cy Seymour (throwing)<br />Fred Snodgrass (catching)<br />Jake Stahl (glove shows)<br />Harry Steinfeldt (with bat)<br />Jeff Sweeney (New York)<br />Heinie Wagner (bat on right shoulder)<br />Doc White (Chicago, pitching)<br />Ed Willetts (Willett)<br />Vic Willis Batting<br />Vic Willis Throwing<br />Hooks Wiltse (pitching)<br />Cy Young With Glove (HOF)<br />Frank Smith (Chicago & Boston)<br /><br />I'm sur I've left out a few as I am late on updating the list, but it should be 95% right. Now that's fill in the wholes. Be well Brian<br /><br /><br /><br />

Archive 12-17-2006 05:50 AM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian E.</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166276985.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1166277016.JPG">

Archive 12-17-2006 06:09 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for your pretty comprehensive list on these Piedmont 460/42 cards.<br /><br />I will add Chase (blue bkgd.) to your list.....all the other 5 Super Prints are included<br />in your list; therefore, there is a high probability that Chase will show up, too.<br /><br />T-Rex TED

Archive 12-27-2006 09:37 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ray Piskadlo</b><p>Just received today. Didn't know what back the card had until I opened the envelope. This is the closest I will ever come to a "find". <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1167197089.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1167197103.JPG">

Archive 12-27-2006 09:48 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p>Find one, and you'll always find another.....<br /><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0040.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0041.jpg">

Archive 12-27-2006 09:53 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0042.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0043.jpg">

Archive 12-27-2006 10:40 PM

PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42.....show us your cards ?
 
Posted By: <b>Ray Piskadlo</b><p>Brian, thanks for showing me what the rest of my card looks like! <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> <br /><br />That's a beauty of a Kleinow too... mine has a Sweet Cap Factory 42 back and resides in an SGC10 holder.


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