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Archive 11-26-2006 04:10 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>In reference to a topic discussed in another thread revolving around Back rarites and the value of the Back totals as a pct of total cards, I'll get the ball rolling with American Beauty Backs. (Alphabetical Order is as good as any).<br /><br />Let's have Board members check in here with the following info:<br />AB Backs 350 Series w/Frame<br />AB Backs 350 Series wo/Frame<br />AB Backs 460 Series<br />Which Players<br />AB Backs (all) as a pct of total T206 cards held by collector.<br /><br />I am not in the position to sort or catalog the responses and tally them due to time restrictions but hopefully a volunteer for this will surface. I am sure this systematic approach will yield some fascinating results and help us fine tune what we know about the set.<br /><br />I'll go first.<br /><br />AB Backs 350 Series w/Frame - My total 1.33% (3/225)<br />AB Backs 350 Series wo/Frame - 0% (0/225)<br />AB Backs 460 Series - 0% (0/225)<br />Which Players - Lattimore, Egan, Burke (all 350 Series w/Frame)<br />Pct of total - 1.33% (3/225)<br /><br />RayB<br /><br />

Archive 11-26-2006 04:39 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p><br />From my historical records when I was really into T206:<br /><br />8 out of 1941<br /><br />.00412%<br /><br />All 350 Series. All with frame.<br /><br />Myers Batting<br />Schlafly<br />Raymond<br />Lennox<br />Jordan Batting<br />Bender Trees<br />Leifield Batting<br />Gaspar

Archive 11-26-2006 05:08 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>Lee</b><p>I have 0 American Beauty of any variation out of 61 cards (soon to be fixed)

Archive 11-26-2006 05:54 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>Bill</b><p>Here are the current totals for American Beauty backs in the "Super Set":<br /><br />American Beauty 350 Frame 171/213 80%<br /><br />American Beauty 350 No Frame 34/56 61%<br /><br />American Beauty 460 47/109 43%<br /><br /><br />My totals:<br /><br />American Beauty 350 Frame <br /><br />Adkins<br />Bresnahan (With Bat)<br />Downs<br />Graham (St. Louis)<br />Hoffman (St. Louis)<br />Kruger<br />Smith (Buffalo)<br />Wilson<br />Young, Irv<br /><br />American Beauty 350 No Frame<br /><br />Baker<br />Burch (Fielding)<br />Conroy (With Bat)<br />Downey (Batting)<br />Elberfeld (Washington, Fielding)<br />Leifield (Batting)<br />Magee (With Bat)<br />McQuillan (With Bat)<br />Mullin (With Bat)<br />Nichols (Batting)<br />Pelty (Vertical)<br />Pfeister (Throwing)<br />Reulbach (No Glove Showing)<br />Seymour (Throwing)<br />Stahl (Glove Shows)<br />Steinfeldt (With Bat)<br />Street (Catching)<br />Sweeney (Fielding)<br />Wilhelm (Batting)<br />Willetts<br />Wiltse (Pitching)<br /><br />American Beauty 460<br /><br />Ford<br />Gandil<br />Geyer<br /><br /><br />

Archive 11-26-2006 06:12 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>I have one of each type of the American Beauty 350 Subject backs out of a total of 17 T206s. I purchased these because I like the thinner look of the American Beauty T206s.<br /><br /><br />Bresnahan (Batting) AB Back 350 Subjects with frame<br />Street (Catching) AB Back 350 Subjects without frame<br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1164506754.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1164507010.JPG"> <br /><br />Patrick

Archive 11-26-2006 06:16 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>Bill:<br /><br />Please add this information to your "Super Set" stats.<br /><br />Patrick

Archive 11-26-2006 06:19 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p>CONGALTON COLUMBUS PORTRAIT AMER BEAUTY 350 FRAME <br /><br />1/128<br><br>People said it was a million dollar wound. But the government must keep that money, cause I ain't never seen a penny of it.

Archive 11-26-2006 08:42 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>thanks, ray.<br /><br />one of each<br />350 NF Elberfeld fielding<br />350 frame Dubuc<br />460 Chase, holding trophy<br />each category is 1 of 450= .66% of my total<br /><br />By the way, Lee Behrens did some helpful work on the AB's around the time<br />of the lengthy EPDG thread some time back. <br /><br />all the best,<br /><br />barry<br />

Archive 11-26-2006 08:56 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>steve yawitz</b><p>9 out of 277<br /><br />350 w/ Frame<br />Barbeau, Jap<br />Beck, Fred<br />Bliss, Jack<br />Mitchell, Mike<br />Schreck, Ossie (Schreckengost)<br /><br />350 w/o Frame<br />Lake, Joe (St. Louis, No Ball)<br />Pfeister, Jake (Pfiester, Throwing)<br />Steinfeldt, Harry (w/ Bat)<br /><br />460<br />Crandall, Doc (w/ Cap)<br><br><a href="http://imageevent.com/yawie99" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://imageevent.com/yawie99</a>

Archive 11-26-2006 09:35 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>0/25.....and if any of your 3 Ray are PSA slabbed, send them over buddy

Archive 11-27-2006 08:04 AM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>Ray Piskadlo</b><p>4 out of 195 = 2%<br /><br />Hal Chase (Dark Cap) = AB 350 Framed<br />Topsy Hartsel = AB 350 Framed<br />William Malarkey = AB 350 Framed<br />Ozzie Schreck = AB 350 Framed<br /><br />No 350 w/o frame or 460.

Archive 11-28-2006 07:22 PM

T206 Systematic Back Study #1 - American Beauty
 
Posted By: <b>Mike (18colt)</b><p>Mine are already entered on the Super Set, but here they are anyway. 11 out of 515 (approx. 2.136%).<br /><br />350 - no frame: Jordan (Brooklyn, batting), Magee (batting)<br /><br />350 - with frame: Knight (portrait), Knight (batting), Myers (fielding), Adkins, McGinley, McGinnity, White (Buffalo)<br /><br />460 - Cobb (bat off shoulder), Steinfeldt (batting)<br /><br />Likely dumb question (I've never thought about it before looking at this data): All of my 350 series AB backs are from factory 25, 2nd district VA. All of my 460 series AB backs are from factory 42, 4th district NC (and all have no frame). Are all 350 AB backs from VA and are all 460 AB backs from NC and frameless? Thanks.<br /><br />Mike (18colt)


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