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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>My current telephone auction is currently up for preview at www.sloateauction.com and will begin tomorrow Oct 30 at 10:00 AM for bidding. We will be updating prices each evening and will also accept email bids every day except the closing night of Nov 16. We have a nice selection of 19th century cards and photographs, 20th century tobacco and candy cards, high grade 1930's gum cards, and a nice group of Cuban issues. This is my first auction in a year and I know that many of you haven't bid with me before. If you receive a catalog in the mail you are registered; if you are new you can email me at bsloate@att.net or call at 718-855-7513 weekdays between 10:00 AM and 6:00PM. I look forward to speaking with everyone, especially those who are regular contributors on network54. Good luck to all. Best regards, Barry Sloate

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Here's a quick link to the auction.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sloateauction.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.sloateauction.com/</a>

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Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>Great selection of cards, Barry. If anyone here is going for the lot of 29 T209-2s, i'd be very interested in obtaining a few that I need from the lot. Please email me- Zacharyrice@sbcglobal.net.

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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>Excellent selection, Barry.<br /><br />-Al

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Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Barry,<br />I look forward to being a first-time bidder in your fine auction.<br />Scot

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Posted By: <b>jason</b><p>Looking forward to it Barry! Good luck – your auctions are always a class act!

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Barry, please advise how many of your cards have been cracked out of slabs, flattened, cleaned (with just water, of course), marks removed, and then resubmitted to various grading companies until a bump up was receieved? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> I'll await your response....

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>All of them....just kidding of course. The whole topic gives me a headache.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Wow!<br /><br />Look at all the rare back Cobbs.<br /><br />A Cobb collector could clean house!<br /><br />So could a "Sovereign 350" back collector. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>That Lloyd is a great card. Good luck with it!<br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p><img src="http://www.oneplacemedia.com/sa/artwork/lots/lot7-large.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Nice stuff!

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>very nice group Barry...what's your gut feeling-estimate on the T206 Plank?

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I know the PSA 3 Plank in the Goodwin Auction went in the 40K ballpark, and I think this one is stronger. However, whoever won his won't be bidding anymore. So it's a tough call. I will guess 30K-35K, but who knows. It just depends who is out there.

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>Hal, <br /><br />Get your grubby hands off my card <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Actually, I am no longer buying cards... so you are free to win without any interference from me!<br /><br />(Unless I ever find an N167 Ward)

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Posted By: <b>Peter Thomas</b><p>The Square border T204 Anderson is only the 4th known if you are looking for a rare card.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>In a nutshell..<br /><br />I kept going through Barry's auction looking for the "low interest" items... and NEVER found them!<br /><br />It's almost like I could bid on the lot numbers WITHOUT knowing what the cards are and still be happy in the end with WHATEVER I won!<br /><br />Very refreshing to see such good stuff in a small personal auction.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Peter- I was told that the Anderson was rare even among the other square Ramlys, but couldn't confirm it. Keep in mind this was from a shoebox find that had a grand total of three Ramlys. What are the odds of that?

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Hal, <br /><br />Wow, it's REALLY exciting to hear someone so enthused about an auction just because it has great stuff and is great to deal with. <br /><br />I mean, it was getting so old reading those annoying and overhyped posts by consignors trying to covertly advertise their stuff without coming right out and saying that's what they're doing. <br /><br />It's almost like I could look at any post of yours in this thread WITHOUT reading it and know exactly what you were trying to say. <br /><br />SUPER!<br /><br />-Ryan

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Posted By: <b>Steve Dawson</b><p>Hey Barry,<br /><br />Would you consider a payment plan on the Plank...say $100 a month for the rest of my life? <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br /><br />Steve

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Hey, Hal, just curious: are you the "consignor" of any of Barry's lots?

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Once upon at a time there was this dog that walked down the road....

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Posted By: <b>Larry</b><p>One of the auction classics that everyone looks forward to!<br />Great Job Again...........

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Posted By: <b>Bottom of the Ninth</b><p>More importantly than is Hal a consignor, why is Hal not buying any longer? Hal??? Is this news to just me? Does this mean you are selling or just not adding?

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1162267062.JPG"><br /><br />Hal in 5 years~ <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1162267115.JPG"> <br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>absolutely breathtaking, Barry!!!<br /><br />all the best,<br /><br />Barry

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I am just not "adding" to my collection any longer. Just found myself straying too far from "rookie HOF's"...<br /><br />so I need to stop or it will consume me!<br /><br />Yes, I sold a few "extras" in the recent Mastro that ended... and have a few consigned to the next Mastro in December...<br /><br />but nothing major.<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>....um, and Barry's auction? Any consigned there?

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Yes, the Lloyd card shown above.<br /><br />But if you notice... it was NOT me who mentioned it.

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>I didn't know who owned the card. I'm just a big Pop Lloyd fan and that Gutierrez card of him is just a great, great card. IMO of course.<br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Chad: No prob! Hopefully nobody thinks that they are not allowed to like any of my cards!<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Hal, <br /><br />Since you found yourself straying too far from your "rookie HOF's" I'd love to see the Billiken Lloyd that you replaced your Tomas Gutierrez with. Do you have a scan?<br /><br />Also, if you have a chance, I'd love if you'd share scans of your Ray Dandridge and Leon Day upgrades with us. They must be pretty nice since the ones you consigned are both decent examples. <br /><br />Good call on consigning the Hilton Smith. As you know, that's NOT his rookie card. Same with the Dihigo you consigned. That's also NOT his rookie card. <br /><br />Thanks in advance for sharing those scans. <br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Sorry, I know you love the Cuban stuff as much as anyone in the world, and I salute you for it...<br /><br />but the lustre went out of it for me when the HOF recently inducted a ton of new Negro leaguers who don't have any cards (or maybe only have some rare Cuban cards).<br /><br />I figured that since I can never get all of them, why keep working on a "set" that can't be finished.<br /><br />Thus, I am giving someone else an opportunity to own these great Cuban cards. I am sure there are collectors like yourself who will appreciate them more than I do, or who need them for their collections more than I do.<br /><br />And how do I say this as nicely as possible...<br /><br />but what business is it of yours what I collect or sell or trade or buy?<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Hal, <br /><br />You're right, it's none of anyone's business what you collect or consign or whatever. That is, until you start posting about it. If you want privacy, don't post on the board. Don't be so transparent when you enthusiastically rave about an auction when you are really just trying to advertise your own items you consigned. There are plenty of collectors with incredible collections that want and have privacy. <br /><br />I was going to continue this post and reference the fact that earlier in the thread you talked about how you were changing the focus of your collection. I was going to point out that it's legitimate for curious board members to ask you a question about something when you post about it. I was going to point out a few other oddities but I see you have, once again, gone back and edited your posts to cover your tracks. <br /><br />You know, Hal, I normally think of David as "King of the Edit," but his many edits are generally his attempts to further clarify his point, or better explicate his position or opinion. It seems they are always innocent edits that are not meant to deceive anyone or hide what he previously said. They are not attempts to gain plausible deniability or give him some kind of "out" when he finds himself caught in a web of his own deceit. <br /><br />In fact, since I first noticed your habit of doing that (years ago) I have not edited a single post of mine, even when I notice I left out a word or spelled something wrong. Sometimes edited posts can lose some credibility in my eyes. Depending on whose post it is, sometimes edited posts lose ALL credibility to me.<br /><br />Yes, whether it be Josh Gibson's son/not-his-son, collecting/not-collecting rookie HOFers or simply perfecting the art of revisionist history, you, Hal, are truly the KING OF THE EDIT. <br /><br />And for that, I salute you. <br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>Barry is taking bids by telephone and email?

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Whatever.<br /><br />You are a sad strange little man.<br /><br />Don't know what makes you so vindictive and bitter, but I am glad that it hasn't spread to me.<br /><br />Baseball cards are about 1% of my life... and it seems like the inverse must be true for you.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>I'm lost here. First Hal claims he has one card, the Lloyd, in Barry's auction. Now he claims "card[s]." Which is it?

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Jeff, I was answering your question in a manner that would not subject me to exactly what you and others are jumping on.<br /><br />It's a Catch-22.<br /><br />You don't want me talking about what cards I have in the auction... but then you ask me what cards I have in the auction?<br /><br />How can I answer WITHOUT doing that?<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>But I must say...<br /><br />I am remembering why it was such a joy to be away from this board for a few months.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Since when did I suggest I didn't want you to talk about the cards you are consigning? I asked you a very simple, straightforward question: "Do you have any cards consigned in Barry's auction?" I made it a simple question so that you would not later claim you did not understand it or were somehow fooled. Alas, your answer has changed in just a few hours. How providing a partial, untrue answer would prevent you from being criticized is beyond me. <br /><br />Hal, no one wants you to not talk about cards. We all appreciate the knowledge you have and when you share it with the rest of us. That is undisputed. However, I understand that it is easier to play the victim when you feel you are being attacked - in that way you can deflect the attack without having to address the reason FOR the purported attack. I think the problem Ryan has with you - and many others over time - is that you tend to be duplicitous. You go on and on, in a manner some might deem to be ad nauseum, about an auction and tend to ignore others. Many people then note that the auctions you rave about ad nauseum are the ones in which you have a financial interest. I don't think anyone has a problem with it if you just bothered to be upfront and honest about your interests. It's like on CNBC, when a guest analyst discusses a stock he or she is required to disclose any financial interest he or she may have in that stock. I'm guessing you understand this concept. I remember when Julie had some cards up in the REA auction, she repeatedly, and good-naturedly, beat the drums for HER cards. It was upfront, transparent and honest - and still some people took it the wrong way. As for your happy days away from the board, I'm sure you had much happier things to deal with while away. I'd hate for anyone here to cause you any undue pain.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>H Murphy</b><p>Barry, where is the "layaway" auction section. Very impressive group of items, Good Luck should be a great auction with much action!

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Jeff:<br /><br />You said: "I don't think anyone has a problem with it if you just bothered to be upfront and honest about your interests."<br /><br />Unfortunately, that is NOT the case. If someone posts anything on this board about a card they are selling, it is immediately removed.<br /><br />Obviously this is necessary in order to keep the board from being flooded with "Please buy my Cuban cards" threads.<br /><br />BUT...<br /><br />I think there is a BIG difference between hawking particular cards...<br /><br />and calling attention to an entire auction (being run by a respectable board member) in which my cards make up a very small percentage of the inventory.<br /><br />Remember...<br /><br />these are vintage card auctions and this is a vintage card discussion board.<br /><br />Thus, the odds of certain posters have items for sale in every auction is very high...<br /><br />as are the odds of certain posters trying to BUY items in every auction.<br /><br />The "buyers" have an interest in keeping auctions "in the dark" so that they might find some bargains.<br /><br />Is this any less "beneficial to their financial interests?" I don't think so.<br /><br /><br />**[For Ryan: The Edit was to change "Not to me" in the final line of text to "I don't think so." I would underline the changes for you in red if so allowed.]<br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Hal, do you have any cards consigned in Charlie's auction?

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>NO.<br /><br />Only the few in Barry's and a few going to Mastro. <br /><br />If I decide to put one or two things in the REA next Spring, I might.<br /><br />I've never actually used any auctions for selling other than Mastro and REA... but I wanted to give Barry a shot at selling these since he is such a nice guy and has done some favors for me.<br /><br />Irrespective of my financial interests... I truly am impressed with the stuff he is selling. <br /><br />He has a TON of items that will get more interest and more $$ than the ones I am selling.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>You didn't think much of Charlie's auction, did you? I don't recall you posting in any of the Manontherock auction threads last week.

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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>Excellent selection, Barry.<br /><br />-Al

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>yous guys...the egos and edits make for a tough thread to follow, but I enjoy the sport of it...keep writing!<br /><br />Barry good luck with the auction...really nice stuff that I hope to be able to start buying when I grow up !<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Peter Spaeth</b><p>It really is annoying when one posts in response to another post, and the original poster then goes back and changes what you were responding to. What's the point? If people aren't comfortable with what they said originally, don't say it at all. It's legitimate to edit to fix typos, or to clarify a thought, but editing well after the fact to make a subsequent poster look foolish to others trying to follow the thread is lame.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Peter:<br /><br />Your logic is as flawed as Jeff's was.<br /><br />I post something...<br /><br />then someone says that I shouldn't post it... <br /><br />so I edit it away...<br /><br />and then get ripped for taking it away!!!<br /><br /><br /><br />