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Posted By: <b>s falletti</b><p>Okay, I should probably blame this on my wife for giving me this task in the first place, (read, but I'm too afraid of this woman); <br /><br />Set the stage; Foggy eyed, half-nekid, cold feet and a blazing sun through the sink window...<br /><br /> While filling the gigantic and somewhat complex Cuisineart Grind n Brew coffee machine with the kitchen sprayer, I looked away briefly and inadvertantly sprayed/doused the edge of a Sanella Ruth SGC encapsulated, that was sitting on the counter awaiting packaging. <br /><br /> Thinkin no big whoop, I wipe it off then notice a small bit of the moisture had crept through the ?seal. Water was just touching the black frame within. Luckily the card was far from the wet corner. I used the vacuum to remove the water -no ill effects.<br /> <br /> This was a rather new submission, gently handled and couldn't find damage to the holder. I always thought these holders were thoroughly heat sealed and humidity not a concern. Reckon we should store these in a cool-dry place.

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Posted By: <b>darren</b><p>I keep all graded cards in sealed plastic sleeves to avoid such catastrophes.

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Posted By: <b>Jon &amp; Jennifer</b><p>...as stoopid does....<br /><br />I found that Windex ALSO penetrates those seemingly air/watertight slabs...<br /><br /><img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>And Darren is certainly an expert on water damage. He has lived through and is still experiencing the devastation of Hurricane Katrina, and doing wonderful work to help people in medical need. Just thought I would add that to your post.

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Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>I remember being at card show one time and seeing a booth with graded cards sitting in the bottom of an aquarium, demonstrating their alleged water tightness. Can't remember the name of the company, though. There are probably better ways to display a collection, and safer ways to tempt fate.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>If the tank is filled with piranah, I'd think they would be pretty safe <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I used to own a piranha, and he lived for fifteen years. True story, you can't make these things up. He ate goldfish.

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Posted By: <b>B.c.Daniels</b><p>I had oscars and Jack Dempsey's that I fed lots of feeder gold fish to. The oscars got huge,died and my neighbor's son brought them to school for a biology class autopsy.A fatty liver and elevated liver enzymes from too much cholesterol was the diagnosis! No cards bubbling from the bottom of the tank. <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>We had an Oscar that grew from the size of a minnow to about a foot long. He must have weighed a few pounds. He was in a 65 gallon tank. One time he got real sick, and at the time I worked at a vet (I was 16), the vet gave me a syringe of tetramiacyn (or something like that), we took him out and gave it to him, and about 1 minute later he was all better. Only time I ever gave a fish a shot.....had that sucker for about 10 years or so....(well, maybe that's a fish story but it seemed like that long)....regards

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Posted By: <b>pete ullman</b><p> In college I put a little quarter sized pirahna in my roommates tank because I hated his lame tropicals and wanted them terminated...I know...mean thing to do. He then gave it to our buddie Skibbie who had a 70 gallon tank with 3 pirahna and eventually a snakehead.<br /><br />The pirahna grew to about 6-8 inches wide and we used to feed them goldfish before Mike Tyson fights to get riled up! It's an awesome sight to behold! Eventually the snakehead took down one of the pirahna and it was all downhill from there.<br /><br />pete in mn

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Oh no. First I have to try to figure out what it is about vintage card collecting that goes with being a lawyer (besides income - not many doctors here but lots of lawyers).<br /><br />Now I have to wonder also about why vintage card collectors also seem to dabble in carnivorous, aggressive and violent sealife. I never heard of one person in my whole life that had any of these fish, and you vintage collectors are suddenly coming out of the weeds about it!<br /><br />Oh, and giving the fish a shot has to be one of the best laughs. And I had just picked myself up after falling down laughing about taking a fish to a vet. lol You go Leon!!<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Joann

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Posted By: <b>pete ullman</b><p>i'm a dentist.<br /><br />pete in mn

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>lol Pete. Yes, a dentist that tried to assassinate his college roommate's harmless little decoration fish. That one's pretty funny too. <br /><br />Joann<br /><br />(I had kind of figured you were a dentist based on your username.)

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>no one had any fighting fish? I always wondered how they would do against a piranah.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>When I was a little kid, my family lived briefly in tropical Australia. Before we moved, a local said "There are 210 different kinds of snakes where you are moving. But don't worry, only 95 are poisonous." The public beaches had nets in the water due to sharks and the place was home to flying foxes (the largest bat), cat killing birds and varieties of lizards. I had lived my whole life in Wisconsin where you get excited if you see a groundhog. After seing a picture of a rural Wisconsin farm house covered in snow, the local kids though I came from the exotic place.

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Posted By: <b>ullmandds</b><p>jay...you mean beta? those colorful little fighting fish? i believe they only attack each other! there aint much that'll take down pirahna or snakeheads in the freshwater world!<br /><br />pete in mn

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>That is correct. A piranha would kill the beta in about two seconds. Male Siamese fighting fish only fight other males, and they can also squeeze the eggs out of the female and place them carefully in the bubble nest they build. But in the process, the female is killed. We had them all, saltwater too. Being a fish is a tough life.

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Posted By: <b>Ed McCollum</b><p>but I did get a venus flytrap for Christmas. Not nearly as entertaining as I though it might be. The bugs have to be pretty stupid and pretty slow to actually get caught. <br /><br />Brings this thread full circle. Stoopid is as Stoopid does.

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>not only are they ugly--they aren't even safe! (thanks for the heads-up--I never knew that either)