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Posted By: <b>pete</b><p>Ok, I hope this works...I have 2 SGC 20/1.5 n172 of John McCarthy and Fred Pfeffer (2 player pose) the back of the McCarthy has some initials on it in pen, no other damage...the back of the Pfeffer has 2 glue spots and otherwise is a great and sharp looking card...did SGC "jack" me on the grades and what are they worth ?<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1133459770.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1133459798.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>The McCarthy looks to be a 20 all right, but the Pfeffer should be at least a 30, maybe a 40. I guess the back damage on the Pfeffer might drop it to a 30 but still a very nice card and much, much better than a 20.

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Posted By: <b>pete</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1133460480.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1133460545.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>Well that back on the Pfeffer explains the grade. I still think it could/should be a 30 though. The McCarthy grade is spot on, although the fantastic photo adds alot to its appeal. Nice cards.

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Posted By: <b>identify7</b><p>A GAI4 Pfeffer sold on eBay last night for $204. The image was crisp, back clean, corners rounded.<br /><br />I consider that a favorable price for the buyer.<br /><br />Your Pfeffer, (if the scan isn't misleading), has a trapezoidal cut with the image cocked on the card, in addition to the back damage. If I was the seller, I would think that my card could get &gt;$125 in the SGC1.5 holder. Because the cut and cocking and residue really ain't that bad. imho.<br /><br />The McCarthy, although possessing great eye appeal, may have difficulty achieving $100. imho.

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Posted By: <b>JudgeDred (Fred)</b><p>Do you want to see an injustice:<br /><br />Compare the following Getzein and Duryea cards -<br /><br />Note that the Duryea has scrap book remnant left on it and the Getzein has what amounts to a minimal scrape of the back on it (obvous adhesive residue removal):<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1133467770.JPG"> <br /><br /><br />----------------------<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1133467802.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>identify7</b><p>Yes Judge, that was the point I intended to make: Do not crack out the Pfeffer. Its authenticity is proven by the holder. And although it is not a vg/ex, it should still get $125/$200 x 100 = % of GAI4 value (or better).<br /><br />Gee, I wonder if the above clarified anything at all.