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Archive 09-23-2005 05:17 PM

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Posted By: <b>adam</b><p>this t206 red portraite cobb looks suspicious to me, but im no grader. is there anyone out there that can tell if this is a doctored up reprint or the original. thanx <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1127517034.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1127517054.JPG">

Archive 09-23-2005 05:20 PM

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Posted By: <b>zach</b><p>One of the worst fakes i've ever seen.

Archive 09-23-2005 05:21 PM

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Posted By: <b>bcornell</b><p>Indisputably fake, like the <a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=153652&messageid=1127423519&lp=1127 436989).<br />">t206 Cobb in the thread yesterday</a>. Cards don't get wear like that, the typeface is wrong, the colors are bad, etc.<br /><br />Bill

Archive 09-23-2005 06:07 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>I dont dink dat Cobby had "Blonde hair" !

Archive 09-23-2005 10:14 PM

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>They come to the board asking about the card and poof, it magically appers on eBay. They even spelled "portraite" the same way.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-1911-T206-Ty-Cobb-Red-Portraite-Sweet-Caporal_W0QQitemZ5263745841QQcategoryZ86840QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-1911-T206-Ty-Cobb-Red-Portraite-Sweet-Caporal_W0QQitemZ5263745841QQcategoryZ86840QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem</a>

Archive 09-24-2005 03:27 AM

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Posted By: <b>pete</b><p>"portraite" as well as "im no grader"...duh!<br /><br /><br><br>my best pitch was the one that made it to the plate!

Archive 09-24-2005 05:42 AM

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Posted By: <b>Mark Holt</b><p>Weasel

Archive 09-24-2005 06:12 AM

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>Maybe it's because its early and I'm just starting my cup of coffee...<br /><br />What someone should do is win his auction, get his address and sign him up for all the junk mail in the world. <br /><br />His Net54 account should be deleted, although I doubt he's used it too much, will in the future or won't just reappear under a different login. <br /><br />Brian

Archive 09-24-2005 06:25 AM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Please email me privately. At that time I am going to want to chat with you on the phone. I will do it on my dime. I will need your phone # and a good time to call you too. Until that time you won't be posting anymore. thanks

Archive 09-24-2005 06:40 AM

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>Message sent to the ebay seller:<br /><br />You are a scammer and soon to be a criminal <br />1) here is the thread you started on net54: <a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=153652&messageid=1127517426&lp=1127 564735" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=153652&messageid=1127517426&lp=1127 564735</a> <br />2)here is your ebay auction: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5263745841" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5263745841</a> <br />3) here is the first agency I'm contacting: <a href="http://www.cybercrime.gov" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.cybercrime.gov</a>/ <br />4) here is the second agency I'm contacting: <a href="http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors</a>/ <br />5) Interstate commerce fraud and crime are federal crimes. Your home of recond can easily be obtained through your email and paypal account. <br /><br /><br /><br />

Archive 09-24-2005 06:43 AM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Nice work...if those agencies have emails addys (which I am sure they do) I suggest you send a link to this thread...so they know we aren't just some kids playing around. This guy really does need to be punished/fined/jailed.....thanks again

Archive 09-24-2005 06:59 AM

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>Two more things can be done<br />1) His ebay auction provides this email address to send paypal payments: checkmate@chartertn.net<br />Here is how to contact his ISP: <a href="http://www.charter.com/contact/contact.aspx?target=webmaster&AcceptsCookies=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.charter.com/contact/contact.aspx?target=webmaster&AcceptsCookies=1</a> I'd say he is abusing his account and probably violating the TOS.<br />2) Here is the link to report paypal abuse: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help-ext&ui_mode=answer&prior_transaction_id=0&action_c ode=4&answer_id=3591937&leafid=2236&_PPP=511&_PPC= 8388607&_FI=Protection_Policies<br /><br />update: 1) ISP notified 2) Complaint with the ifccfbi filed. Complaint number: I05092409439689

Archive 09-24-2005 09:03 AM

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Does anyone agree or disagree with reporting "scammers" like this? Or do you let the "uneducated" fall for the scam and learn from their mistakes? My feelings won't be hurt if I'm labeled a vigalante as was the case a few days ago concerning a certain $2000 Green Cobb on Ebay slabbed by SGC that looks bogus/cracked out. <br /><br />So often I just ignore these guys and their very doctored reprint cards. For some reason this one just got under my skin.

Archive 09-24-2005 09:21 AM

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Posted By: <b>jackgoodman</b><p>I think this guy got "uder our skin" 'cause he ran his card by this group to see if a) it would fool anyone, b) wanted to know what he needed to "fix" to get it to sell or c) is just stupid. I don't think any of the board likes feeling "used."<br /><br />That said, I'd like to put out there the following question: Do members of the board believe they have a responsibility/desire/calling to be the polcemen of Ebay and take all of the "reporting" actions outlined above or is it a large group of individuals that have outstanding knowledge that is available for those that find it, ask for it or use it?<br /><br />Just asking.<br /><br />

Archive 09-24-2005 09:57 AM

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Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>Did anyone else make the connection of the name Adam and Cobb red portrait? It just seemed a little strange.

Archive 09-24-2005 10:11 AM

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Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>great job by brian! yes i report bogus auctions all the time,gives me pleasure when they disapear. i also notify "buyers" if the id is not hidden but some of the time i feel i am notifying a shill or the seller w/another id.

Archive 09-24-2005 10:45 AM

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>mrgixser@yahoo.com wrote me and stated he removed the listing<br /><br />

Archive 09-24-2005 11:46 AM

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Posted By: <b>Bryan</b><p>Our old friend Adam is from Iowa, this guy is from Tennessee. Adam owns a PSA 1 red background Cobb.


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