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Archive 09-28-2004 08:57 PM

Blank Back Questions
 
Posted By: <b>Robert Adesso</b><p>I was just wondering what you guys/gals thought about this card.<br />Is this printer's scrap? <br />How should the grading companies describe these on the holder?<br />Why didn't it recieve a grade rather than an "authentic"?<br />just wondering.<br />thanks much!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1096425912.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1096427011.JPG">

Archive 09-29-2004 12:54 AM

Blank Back Questions
 
Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>This is interesting because GAI would not even take my submission a month ago for a blank back T-205...they said they would not grade it since it was considered a proof or a cut from a poster...oh well...<br /><br />-Joshua<br /><br />PS Oh yeah...I like your card...looks pretty good to me.

Archive 09-29-2004 07:35 AM

Blank Back Questions
 
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>Maybe they haven't either!<br /><br />Since blank-backed Collins-McCarthys and SN cards are less expensive, I'd just expect a lower grade--but what?<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/14520_sjowall/cmwagner.JPG"> <br /><br />blank-backed Collins-McCarthy (Mastro sold it 5 years ago, approx.)

Archive 09-29-2004 09:33 AM

Blank Back Questions
 
Posted By: <b>robert adesso</b><p>a graded t206 with a blank back?<br />I was wondering how it was graded.

Archive 09-29-2004 10:08 AM

Blank Back Questions
 
Posted By: <b>Louis</b><p>Sent 2 blank back T206's to PSA, came back "No holder".

Archive 09-29-2004 11:07 AM

Blank Back Questions
 
Posted By: <b>robert adesso</b><p>why they wouldn't holder them, or just "no holder?"<br />

Archive 09-29-2004 12:41 PM

Blank Back Questions
 
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>I think it was not graded because it was hand cut from a sheet. It is authentic, but how does one grade a hand cut card? It is not the same as trimming, but for grading purposes makes it almost impossible.<br />Jim

Archive 09-29-2004 12:51 PM

Blank Back Questions
 
Posted By: <b>Robert A</b><p>Is this card printer's scrap? Was it thrown out by the printer?<br />In your opinion, should the grading companines even encapsulate these without designating such?<br /><br />Is the card an "authentic" t206?...or is it an "authentic" printer's scrap?

Archive 09-29-2004 04:27 PM

Blank Back Questions
 
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>These posts raise a good point of distinction between a printing error, printers scrap and "cards" removed from other sources. <br /><br />IMHO a printing error is a card that was printed and issued with the cancer cylinders with a mistake, whether it is a miscut, a misprint or missing print. I think those cards can be graded as "authentic" subjects of that issue because they were issued "deformed" through the regular channels. If you want a numerical grade on such an item, I think you should be able to have one too, but you obviously will get a "1" because the card is flawed. <br /><br />Cards that appear to be salvaged from the garbage at the print shop should be authenticated only if they are designated as authentic unissued printing material from that set. I do not feel that they are worthy of numerical grades. If the Chance was hand-cut from printers scrap, for example, it should be designated as such, not as a T206, because it was never issued in a pack with death sticks. <br /><br />I wholly agree with a refusal to grade or authenticate a "card" that is actually a chunk of a poster or album page. Sorry, Charlie, they simply are not cards because their source material was never meant to be cut up. Separate from them are strip cards, which were meant to be cut apart into cards, hence are cards. I feel that these are gradeable but I understand why some unskilled, unsophisticated graders would have a hard time gradng the cards because they are simply too uninformed to be aware of how a card from the issue should look when properly cut out. <br />


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