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Archive 09-06-2004 10:34 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>This Ruth rookie actually looks pretty good. None of the tell-tale signs of a reprint in the scan, at least none that I see. Perhaps he stole the scan. I have never seen anyone offer so many ridiculous reasons for not getting a card graded. I buy ungraded cards all the time, but never from someone who offers 10 different excuses for not grading the card. And this listing follows a pattern that's more reliable than Newton's laws: the likelihood of a fraud is directly proportional to the number of spelling and gramatical errors.<br /><br />Bid only if you feel lucky - or charitable.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31719&item=5121770 569&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31719&item=5121770 569&rd=1</a><br /><br />[edited to change title]

Archive 09-06-2004 10:50 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>steve k</b><p>&lt;&lt;&lt; ALSO BEWARE OF REPRINT SETS THE LAST 20 YRS. &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><br>This was the advice pasted from the description. I'll heed this advice and not bid!<br>

Archive 09-06-2004 11:09 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred</b><p>Same seller with the Anson cabinet:<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=153652&messageid=1093203366&lp=1094 337051" target=_new>http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=153652&messageid=1093203366&lp=1094 337051</a><br /><br />

Archive 09-07-2004 12:24 AM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>I get dizzy looking at the white and black lines around that M101-5 (or 4) Ruth...

Archive 09-07-2004 04:34 AM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>found the card(s)in an attic,or flea market,need money for a divorce,need money for a lawyer,got the card from their uncle or grandfather,need to state that the card is NOT A REPRINT,have low feedback and sell high value cards,ramble on and on in their discriptions.....ANY I MISSED?

Archive 09-07-2004 10:33 AM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>The other One (Julie)</b><p>who collected baseball cards. But he had several BOYS--never even found out what kind of cards they were.

Archive 09-07-2004 06:22 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>bcornell</b><p>Pete still has the page up on his site that explains how to differentiate between real and fake Ruths: <a href="http://www.caramel-cards.com/reprint1.html" target=_new>http://www.caramel-cards.com/reprint1.html</a>.<br /><br />This seller's is fake, of course.

Archive 09-09-2004 03:04 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>and paid $1000.00 hope for their sake its real.

Archive 09-09-2004 03:19 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>Pt Barnum</b><p>It doesn't surprise me to see a fool and his money parted. It surprises me to see how a fool and his money ever got together in the first place.

Archive 09-09-2004 03:21 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred</b><p>Look closely at the winners feedback:<br /><br /><a href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws1/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=jonesbond29" target=_new>http://feedback.ebay.com/ws1/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=jonesbond29</a><br /><br />Guess where the positive feedback came from? <br /><br />The seller of the Ruth posted a positive feedback to the winner (who had a ZERO feedback rating) within about 90 minutes of the end of the auction. I guess the winner must have rapidly paid using paypal.<br /><br />I didn't realize that this auction had a BIN on it to begin with. I guess it must have because the auction said it was ended with the BIN option. <br />

Archive 09-09-2004 04:24 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>The auction definitely had a BIN. I swear when I first looked at it, it had a BIN of 3K, and then moments later it became 1K. Perhaps the seller reduced the BIN.

Archive 09-09-2004 04:46 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>it says selling to pay lawer blah blah sob sob... but if you check his ebay #'s he's buying like crazy and is high bid on the 1932 caramel foxx

Archive 09-09-2004 09:45 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>Dennis W.</b><p>At first glance the card shows all of the signs of being real. Not your typical Ruth reprints seen everyday on ebay. But after closer inspection and a little investigating I have a theory: <br /><br />After looking at this seller's feedback I noticed that he has spent hundreds of dollars on early newspapers featuring the Yanks and the Babe and at least one book from the Ruth era. All with nice photos that are card-like. I also notice that in his ad he states "no refunds on un-graded cards" although he states it's authentic. He also states that his scanner is "grainy". <br /><br />Factor this in with the lame excuse of not having cards graded and it could add up to this card not being a card at all. I think it's a cut-out. Also notice the difference in the colors of the front scan and the back scan. I don't think they're the same. Lastly look closely at the front scan and notice the odd black ink spots. <br /><br />There are quite a few periodicals that show/advertise the m101-5s including the Sporting News newspaper that he seems to know so much about. Just a thought...

Archive 09-10-2004 05:24 PM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p> can he give libertyforall some competition in the graded cut out picture business?

Archive 09-11-2004 09:08 AM

fake M101-5 Ruth
 
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>I would stay as far away from this jerk as possible. I exchanged a few emails with him and he fits the "Southern Ohio" profile perfectly. As a previous poster pointed out, he's incredibly ignorant, setting up a shill bidder for one of his reprints and adding feedback 90 minutes later.


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