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Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31718&item=5108836 583&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31718&item=5108836 583&rd=1</a> also the other guy with the T202s (which I might very well buy if it wasn't so suspicious).

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Posted By: AnonymousWhy would they want you to preregister with just one day ? Also the lack of a RESERVE (and the rather enticing BINs) are especailly suspect.

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Posted By: Kenny ColeI saw it too, and immediately had the same thoughts as you expressed. To my way of thinking, a one day auction, pre-registration requirement, seller with 32 feedback and a BIN of $4,999 on this card probably does not bode well for the unlucky winner's prospects of getting what he/she paid for. Guess I'll have to pass on this one. Kenny

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Posted By: ramramLast time we saw one like this the seller collected his list of approved bidders and then contacted them after the auction. He'd tell them that the other bidder(s) backed out and then offered to sell to the newest "sucker". He then disappeared with the money of all that would fall for it. He would run one day auctions so that he could get off of ebay's radar screen as quickly as possible. He'd then make his deals outside of ebay so that they wouldn't be involved.

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Posted By: Judge DredThe last time I saw this game played was about 8 months to a year ago with a PSA graded Delahanty N172 card. I tried to register with no success. The seller then contacted me and tried to sell it for less than the original starting auction price. I knew it was a scam so I had a bit of fun, I told them that I was sending a cashiers check to them. I received a few more emails from them wanting to know when the check was sent. "Checks in the mail." The address was in the UK. What a joke. I wouldn't doubt that this is probably the same schmuck or the same game.

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Posted By: Judge Dred See the following link for more of the same crud.... <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5108855614" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5108855614</a>

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Posted By: ramramHey Judge - I just sent an email to try to preregister for the auction you mentioned. The seller indicates in his auction that he is from Overland Park, KS which is where I live. I might be able to have fun with this one!

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Posted By: Julie VognarAlmost all of her 33 feedbacks (left for others) are thanking people for dresses jewelry and hand-made beads. Believe it or don't. In the gushyest way possible.

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Posted By: Judge DredI knew that someone was from Overland Park KS. I purchased an N172 from you in the past. By the way THANKS - IT'S GREAT. By the way, don't out bid me on that Jackson card, now. If you do I'll have to hire a demo team in your area to let you know how I feel about that!!!

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Posted By: ramramDon't worry about me...for the most part I only collect unique one-of-a-kind material now. Jerks like these guys have run me off from the cards.

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Posted By: Brian I was sort of thinking along the same lines - messing with this guy a bit as I live in Lenexa, which is a city that shares a border with Overland Park. I like how the User's ID reads like a business name "MVP Cards". Funny how there's no business with that name anywhere in this area....

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Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)I know a (recent) previous owner of the T202 Johnson. From what he tells me the BIN would be much much less than 1/2 of what it recently sold it for.... HMMM Still I attemtped to "pre-register" just to see what would happen. So far no word and the auction is due to expire with no bidders and a very low minimum without any reserve.

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Posted By: ramramHe'll start contacting everybody as soon as the auction expires.

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Posted By: RobertI sent two emails to the sellers of these items asking to be put on the list and I have not received any responses yet. Both sellers have two items listed so to cover all bases I sent one email for each item. I would go up to a buck on each item just to see whats going on here. And maybe contact ebay just to see if they care. Rob

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Posted By: BcDstealing images and posting them as if they were his to sell.

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Posted By: Lee BehrensHere is the email response I received: I SAW YOU ARE INTERESTED IN MY ITEMS: Listing details: Item name: 1912 T202 Hassan Triple Folders Engle/Speaker Item number: 5108844297 Price: US $1,499.99 Listing details: Item name: 1912 T202 Hassan Triple Folder Johnson/Street Item number: 5108844896 Price: US $3,999.99 IF YOU ARE STILL INTERESTED PLEASE LET ME KNOW. REGARDS. Antonio Maldini www.tonis-cards.com --Original Message Text--- From: leebehrens@charter.net Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:03:19 -0700 Question for item #5108844896 - 1912 T202 Hassan Triple Folder Johnson/Street .SectionTitle {font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:bold }.SmallTitle {font-size: x-small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:bold }.SectionBody {font-size: x-small; font-family: arial, sans-serif}.DetailTable, .DetailTable th {font-size: 10 pt; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:normal }.Title {font-size: medium; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif}.BodyFont {font-size: 10 pt; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:normal}.BodyFontStrong {font-size: 10 pt; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:bold}.SmallBody {font-size: xx-small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:normal; margin-top: 8 px; margin-bottom: 6 px}.Separator {COLOR: #CCCCCC; height: 1px}.HighlightedSeparator {COLOR: #9999cc; height: 1px}.FooterSeparator {COLOR: #CCCCCC; height: 1px}.Footer, .Footer p {font-size: xx-small; font-family:arial, sans-serif; color:#666666; margin-top: 2 px; margin-bottom: 8 px}.SmallPara, .SmallParap {margin-top: 8 px; margin-bottom: 6 px}.ItemTitle {font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:bold }Question about your item Question about your item Dear papayalizzie, Hi, Can I get a scan of the back of this card? Thanks Item # Item Title Listing end date 5108844896 1912 T202 Hassan Triple Folder Johnson/Street Jul-13-04 Thank you, bowlingshoegiverouterguy Need help calculating shipping cost? Use the Shipping Calculator. Is this message an offer to buy your item directly through email without bidding on and winning the item on eBay? These "off eBay" transactions violate eBay policy and may be unsafe. You can click here to report it. Learn more about safe trading. eBay treats your personal information with the utmost care, and our Privacy Policy is designed to protect you and your information. eBay will never ask their users for personal information, such as bank account numbers, credit card numbers, pin numbers, passwords, or Social Security numbers in an email. For more information on how to protect your eBay password and your account, please visit User Account Protection. This eBay notice was sent to thoma196@bama.ua.edu based on your eBay account preferences and in accordance with our Privacy Policy. To change your notification preferences, click here. If you would like to receive this email in text format, click here. Copyright © 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. ====================================== =========== Antonio Maldini Toni's SportsCards Stores <a href="http://www.tonis-cards.com" target=_new>http://www.tonis-cards.com</a> tonis_cards_store@yahoo.co.uk

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Posted By: Robert<DIV id=message>I also received an email.       &n bsp;            &n bsp;       &nbs p;                 &n bsp;       &nbs p;                 &n bsp;       &nbs p;                 &n bsp;       &nbs p;                 &n bsp;       &nbs p;                 &n bsp;       &nbs p;                 &n bsp;        I SAW YOU ARE INTERESTED IN MY ITEMS: Listing details: Item name: 1933 Goudey Babe Ruth #053 EX 5 Item number: 5108855054 Price: US $1,999.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5108855054&ssP ageName=ADME:B:EOAS:US:3 Listing details: Item name: 1933 Goudey Babe Ruth #144 EX-MT 6 Item number: 5108855614 Price: US $1,999.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5108855614&ssP ageName=ADME:B:EOAS:US:3 IF YOU ARE STILL INTERESTED PLEASE LET ME KNOW. REGARDS. Antonio Maldini www.tonis-cards.com --Original Message Text--- From: bigb104776@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 07:57:02 -0700 Question from eBay Member .SectionTitle {font-size: small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:bold }.SmallTitle {font-size: x-small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:bold }.SectionBody {font-size: x-small; font-family: arial, sans-serif}.DetailTable, .DetailTable th {font-size: 10 pt; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:normal }.Title {font-size: medium; font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif}.BodyFont {font-size: 10 pt; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:normal}.BodyFontStrong {font-size: 10 pt; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:bold}.SmallBody {font-size: xx-small; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:normal; margin-top: 8 px; margin-bottom: 6 px}.Separator {COLOR: #CCCCCC; height: 1px}.HighlightedSeparator {COLOR: #9999cc; height: 1px}.FooterSeparator {COLOR: #CCCCCC; height: 1px}.Footer, .Footer p {font-size: xx-small; font-family:arial, sans-serif; color:#666666; margin-top: 2 px; margin-bottom: 8 px}.SmallPara, .SmallParap {margin-top: 8 px; margin-bottom: 6 px}.ItemTitle {font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-weight:bold }This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system. If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the member and not through eBay. Message From eBay Member If this email is an offer to directly sell you an item without bidding on and winning the item on eBay, please report it to us immediately and do not respond. An offer to sell an item directly to another eBay member through email violates eBay rules. It is also extremely unsafe to purchase an item through this email system regardless of the seller's claims or feedback, as you lose the benefit of eBay's purchase protection programs and risk losing your money. Never pay for your eBay item through instant cash transfer services such as Western Union or MoneyGram. Such services offer Internet shoppers no protection against fraud. Dear mvp-cards, I would also like to be placed on the pre-approved bidder/buyer list for this item. Rob Please respond to the question on eBay by clicking the button below. Thank you, bigb13 eBay treats your personal information with the utmost care, and our Privacy Policy is designed to protect you and your information. eBay will never ask their users for personal information, such as bank account numbers, credit card numbers, pin numbers, passwords, or Social Security numbers in an email. For more information on how to protect your eBay password and your account, please visit User Account Protection. This eBay notice was sent to thomasonavenue@juno.com based on your eBay account preferences and in accordance with our Privacy Policy. To change your notification preferences, click here. If you would like to receive this email in text format, click here. <CENTER>Copyright © 2004 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. <LEFT> ================================ ================= Antonio Maldini Toni' s SportsCards Stores http://www.tonis-cards.com tonis_cards_store@yahoo.co.uk </DIV></CENTER>

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Posted By: Lee BehrensThis might be a question for Bill, where can we send off these emails to ebay? I now they do not allow solications off line. Maybe that will get there attention. Lee

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Posted By: Judge DredAntonio contacted me with the same email as he did others. Let the playing begin. I'm working on a deal with Antonio for a few of the items - so please don't snake me out and buy them before I do.... This is the same guy from the other thread that was started a few days before this thread started. If you look at the website he has you can do a Google search on the address and there are a few other businesses that share the same physical address. Lets see who gets what.....

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Posted By: bcornell<a href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-non-ebay-sale.html" target=_new>http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-non-ebay-sale.html</a> You're asked to forward the email you received. Of all the bad sellers we've seen, this Toni guy is probably the biggest villain - he hijacks accounts, misrepresents his identity and sells items he doesn't own. His karmic destiny is to come back as algae.

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Posted By: Lee BehrensThanks Bill, Mine is off to Ebay, hopefully they do something.

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Posted By: MJ or Kobe? I almost sent this guy mad dough for 2 cards . Then I found this forum with all this stuff about this guy and at the last second canceled . This guy has a good scam going . I was almost robbed blind !!!

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Posted By: steve smithyesterday held sales on 3 items,very exspensive,pre approved bidders only,tried to get on list,no response,today got email asking if i was interested lets deal,ebay rules of course,no outside bids,he sounded funny in way he asked to do deal,item location says tennesse,he wants money western union to london? has whole con down to a perfect ploy,phony shipping and all,were not as stupid as he thinks,to bad cant get hands on him.at end of email had his web-site,i pulled it up found you guys,this stuff is important to help people not get conned,thanks!

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Posted By: runscottThis just went up for sale on his site yesterday, and at only 900 Euro! <img src="http://www.tonis-cards.com/_/images/e95cobb3.jpg"> Some of you may recognize this card - curiously, it was slabbed by SGC but this image shows it in a GAI holder. I realize that GAI originally did a pre-grade on it, but this seems kind of weird. I'm sure someone can enlighten me. How did Toni get hold of an image of it in a GAI holder? hmmm...

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Posted By: runscottHello, Thank you for being interested about my item. The items are located in my store in Paris, France, Europe. My website is www.tonis-cards.com As shipping carrier i will use TNT Express Inc. or Pegasus Cargo Ltd. so you will receive the package in 2 or 3 business days. The delivery will be door-to-door so you don't have to worry about any other delivery fees when the package will arrive in your country. As I told you in my first email, all taxes are included in the price. To protect my business I have adopted the following polices. Nobody forces you to accept it. If you don't agree, I believe it would be better that none of us lose his time for nothing. - I will send the item in advance and when you'll receive the tracking number from the carrier and you see that the package is moving I expect from you to send me the payment confirmation in max. 24 hours from that moment. In that way both of us will be protected. - As a payment method I have chosen Western Union's services because they always served our interests in a professional manner and helped me gain buyers. I consider promptitude a vital condition on the modern eCommerce markets and a guarantee of quality. If the terms and conditions above are suitable for you and you decide to purchase please email me back with your full name and address to prepare the package. After I have the shipping information's from you I will prepare the package and I will contact the carrier. Thank you again for your interest. I look forward to a favorable reply and just as soon as I receive it, I will send you my payment address. Regards. Antonio Maldini www.tonis-cards.com

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Posted By: jay behrensIt's easy enough to to make a SGC card appear in GAI holder and vice versa. They both ahve black backgrounds and a simple cut and paste of the card is all that is needed. Jay

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Posted By: Gary B.This guy is no longer a registered user, so I guess someone's e-mail did the trick. Did anyone get a response from ebay that they were investigating this or had investigated him and decided to give his account the boot?

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Posted By: runscottlots of things are possible in this life, but modifying a label of a scan that doesn't belong to you, to sell a card you don't own....well....just doesn't compute. No, the scan is doctored.

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Posted By: runscottthis is an enigma. But I'm not really concerned - whatever it was, it's about making a buck at anyone else's expense, and many in this hobby look at baseball cards totally as a vehicle for doing just that.

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Posted By: JOSH SCHNEIDERI found this thread too late, and was ripped off for $2000 yesterday. The item was a 1961 Fleer basketball set (all PSA 7). This transaction was done after his Ebay auction. Can anyone help me. Please e-mail me at jsschneider@comcast.net Thank you!

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Posted By: Judge DredHow did you pay for this item? Hopefully it was with a credit card.

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Posted By: Lee BehrensScott, I image is in a GAI holder, you can tell by the black insert to hold the card. It is more sloped than just cut out bigger on the corners. As far as Josh, find a way to stop payment, whether it is a credit card personal check, money order (yes, there payment can be stopped, contact the money order company) or credit card. Good Luck