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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>Between 1949 (when Jackie Robinson first won it) and 1963, black guys won the MVP in the National League 11 times (several repeats there); black guys won the MVP in the American league once--in 1963--Elston Howard.

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred</b><p>Oh my goodness, did you say "black guys" rather than African Americans? What would the PC guru's of the world think about this? Personally, I would venture to guess that Roy Campanella, Ernie Banks, Willie Mays and Hank Aaron probably were born in the US. So poop on the PC people. <BR><BR>You've got to figure that they were deserving of the award. I don't think that they just gave the awards away to show that they were doing the PC thing because back then I would venture top guess nobody cared about the PC thing.<BR><BR>I'm trying to remember who the other players (not black) were that won the award in the NL between 1949 and 1963:<BR><BR>I can only come up with Dick Groat in 1960. The only reason I remember is because I can vaguely recall the 1975 Topps series with the MVP award winners. I guess I'll have to cheat and look this up. First I'll give it a day to see who else pops in with the answers. <BR><BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR><BR>

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>The non-Blacks are Konstanty, Sauer, Grote. Koufax won it in 63, so it was actually 11 Blacks from 1949-62. I think Boyer won it in 64.<BR><BR>As for the PC term African-American, call a Jamican that and see what kind of reaction you get. African-American had to be the most illconcieved and least thought out of all the PC terms, although most PC terms just plain silly.<BR><BR>Jay

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>"African-American," (his family has been here for generations, and there's some Creole mixed up in there too), and he said: "Two things: 1) Who, me? and 2) Sort of flattered." I try to imagine what I would feel like if someone asked me if I were Israeli (I'm Jewish), and--you know, it's the same sort of thing. Even if I HATE what the Israelis are doing now, it's sort of nice to be associated with where your people originally came from. Even if you're not sure they did...