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Posted By: <b>Nickinvegas</b><p>I have a question about the M114 premium sold in the link below:<BR><BR><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2754050123&category=31 719&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2754050123&category=31 719&rd=1</a><BR><BR>How rare are these?Is the final price typical of these premiums? <BR> <BR>There is one for sale in the the collectible classics aution that I was going to bid on but I am reconsidering now that this one has sold at such a low price. <BR><BR>

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Posted By: <b>Hankron</b><p>The M114s are 'Baseball Magazine' Premiums. The magazine issued similar style/color premiums for many years, at least until the 1950s. They generally do not get much respect in the hobby, in part because premium prints rarely get much respect by trading card collectors and possibly because of the brown tone (They really could have picked a better color or, even better, have it in colors).<BR><BR>The aren't rare, and the Gaynor price is probably typical for the Cobb or similar star. I think it's worth having one or two, as the are like miniature posters.

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Posted By: <b>kevinr</b><p>That price is pretty accurate for a Cobb in that condition. If you see a similar one in another auction with a much higher price, it is probably because they are just fishing for somebody who is not that knowledgeable and looking for an old Cobb item.

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Posted By: <b>Hankron</b><p>Early baseball suppliments and premiums prints is a largely overlooked and underated area in the hobby, and someone could be a pioneer by researching and producing a guide (or at least an article) to the area. Though many in the hobby are familiar with the Baseball Magazine Premiums, Sporting News Suppliments and Harper's Woodcuts (neither suppliments or premiums, but within the genre), those comprise the tip of the iceberg.

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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Some look old, but were issued much later than when the photo was taken, unlike the Sporting News supplements were issued on the dates printed on the supplements - I saw a "Baseball Magazine" Cobb go recently in a Henry Yee auction for an arm and a leg. The same premium, accurately described by me as being from the '40s, went for about 1/10th of the Yee price.<BR>

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>from the 1910's bring LARGE coin.......$500-$1000 or more. I think there may be most of the larger stars in the 10x18.5 format like Scott's Cobb. I thought that was a little low to fairly priced. The 1930's-1940's are like 9x12 or 9x13 in size I believe. I bought a lot of about 30 at a local auction here. The HOFers will generally bring in the $15-$20 range unless it's a Gehrig or 'better' Hall of Famer and commons will bring $8-$10. Watch out for trimming on this issue though as with the wide white borders, people liked to trim them to fit picture frames or just make them smaller.