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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>My wife is watching ER and I am bored, so thought I would post a pic of a vintage trade card.......regards all<BR><BR><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1033094092.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>David</b><p>Nice, I've never seen that one before.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Mathewson</b><p>I haven't seen one of those either. I hope your wife watches more crappy TV shows from now on...eventually, we'll get to see all your cool cards!<BR><BR><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Keith O'Leary</b><p>I'm keeping my eye out at the flea market this Saturday for one of em. I know a dealer up there that deals in trade cards <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>, thanks Leon, super card! Enjoyed seeing it, Keith

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>...... <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><BR><BR> Gotta keep in practice...

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Posted By: <b>Dr.Koos</b><p>...

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Posted By: <b>leonl</b><p>It is definitely not a picture.....and more photo engravings were used after the Civil War than woodcuts so this is more than likely a copy of a photo engraving, or something like that..it has larger ink areas which lead me to believe it could be an engraving too...since woodcuts had the white areas cut out with a tool they were more wide and cross hatching was used to make the more solid areas..Woodcut plates were cut along the grain of soft wood and engravings were done on harder wood giving the harder wood "engravings" finer lines too..I think this is an engraving type pic..... I could be wrong on this but I think that is what it is..................regards all

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Posted By: <b>MW</b><p>Julie...actually, that would be a print <b><i>made</i></b> from a woodcut.

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Posted By: <b>David</b><p>It's a photoengraving reproduction of a photograph. More precisely it's a photoengraving with halftone (meaning it has dots).

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>...

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Posted By: <b>David</b><p>Anytime you have a 1883-1910 baseball card or other print that has a black-and-white photographically realistic image but is not a photograph, 99.9% of the time it's a photengraving. Breish-williams, Fan Craze, Just So, magazine picture, etc.

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Posted By: <b>leonl</b><p>For clearing it up...pretty much what I said.....and I have your book on the processes and have read a little other material on it too.....best regards

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Posted By: <b>David</b><p>Leon, it may be the earliest photoengraving baseball card in existance. Before seeing this one, the earliest examples I knew of were the Just So's.

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Posted By: <b>Dr.Koos</b><p>....sleeps so maybe, just maybe, for more than 15 minutes, we can have some truth and honesty around here? Someone send me his address and I'll send him some complimentary samples of Somnambutol, Percoset, and some 10mg. Valiums.

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Posted By: <b>MW</b><p>...I was only kidding <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>