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Posted By: <b>Brian C Daniels&nbsp; </b><p>This is NOT a NADJA*** O.K. Pete you should play as well....what is the 90% probable back ????<BR><BR><BR><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1851754649" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1851754649</a>

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Posted By: <b>LEON</b><p>if you check out his T206's they are E90-2's also.....doesn't quite have is id'ing down .....best regards

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Posted By: <b>Mike Williams</b><p>Interesting card...

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Posted By: <b>B C Daniels</b><p>No!

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>so your wrong as well!!!

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Posted By: <b>Tom</b><p>E92 blank back..........

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Posted By: <b>LEON</b><p>I answered the wrong question.....if you go look at masstercards (james), he is the one that has the T206's that are really E104's .....i think...regards all<BR><BR><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1851933233" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1851933233</a>

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Posted By: <b>Mike Williams</b><p>&lt;eom&gt;

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Posted By: <b>Mike Williams</b><p>&lt;eom&gt;

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Posted By: <b>MW</b><p>E92 Dockman (series of 50). Could also be Croft's Cocoa.

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Posted By: <b>Brian C Daniels</b><p>but no cigar yet!

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Posted By: <b>John Wojak</b><p>My guess is either a Dockman or an E101. I happen to believe that they are pretty much one and the same - my theory is that the Dockmans were printed first, and then when they were a hit the manufacturer of the cards doctored the back to take off the Dockman name, added another ten players and printed up the E101s as samples to show to other candy companies, who bought the cards but opted instead for their own designs (Nadja, C&A, Crofts cocoa) on the backs. But I admit that my theory doesn't explain the 12 St. Louis Nadjas. And of course, it could have happened the other way around, i.e. the E101s were printed first as samples, and then dockman bought them but declined to take 10 of the players. Anyway, as for this Chase card, I know of no way of knowing whether it is a Dockman or an E101, but I would bet that it is one or the other.

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Posted By: <b>petecld</b><p>It definitely isn't a Nadja, the background style is wrong. <BR><BR>Going by the washed out skin tones I would say, after you peeled it off the cardboard it's glued to, you would have a E92 Croft's Cocoa. <BR><BR>I haven't owned a Croft's & Allen Chase so it could be that. Coloring is different from my Dockman.<BR><BR>C'mon Brian, know something we don't? What is it?<BR><BR>

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Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>on ebay but passed because of the small border tear. I think it is an E92 Croft's Candy Croft's and Allen card which was printed on a promotional advertising piece of cardboard along with others and then cut, removed and trimmed.<BR>That's what I think but it still nags me that the card was possibly originally described on ebay last time as an E101 proof, although I don't think it is.

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>I like the "1/4 inch crease that may have broken through the card." Last I heard it was called a tear.<BR><BR>Lee

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Posted By: <b>Brian C Daniels</b><p>WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!<BR><BR><BR>LEON WILL POST SCANS OF A COUPLE OF CARDS ON MONDAY!<BR><BR><BR>I have 11 blank back 'Croft's Candy" and they are ALL HAL CHASE!!!!! HE IS THE MOST PROLIFIC POSE OF THE BLANK BACK E-92 "NOT" NADJAS BY FAR!!!<BR><BR><BR><BR>

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>Maybe because he started playing Pete Rose at first base, we don't understand how great a player he really was.<BR><BR>Or maybe he knew somebody...

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Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>Cobb played against 'em all and said Chase was the best defensive first baseman he ever played against and Bucky Weaver (plug for my guy) was the best defensive third baseman. Quite a statement for Weaver as he was a defensive liability when he first came up and only tedious hard work and constant instruction by Kid Gleason turned it around for him. <BR>Selig won't take Buck back off the suspended for life, souble secret probation list he was unfairly and unjustly put on by Landis. Just another reason to hate Selig (as if any true fan needs another).

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>From what I've read, Chase revolutionized the way 1B was played. Just can't remember what it was that was so significant. Whether it was playing off the bag, first to play behind the runner, etc.<BR><BR>Most old-timers seem to agree that Chase was the best there was at 1B.<BR><BR>Jay

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>he's not your guy, he's my guy.<BR><BR>(Maybe enough to share?)

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Posted By: <b>Brian C Daniels</b><p><BR><BR>Real name~ Bobily fluid Bob !

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Posted By: <b>John(z28jd)</b><p>So Tbob and Julie,if Buck Weaver is your guy,how are you 2 celebrating his 112 birthday today?<BR><BR>editors note: also born today hall of famers roberto clemente,and burliegh grimes

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Posted By: <b>David</b><p>Agreed, contemperaries and contemperary literature said he was the superior first basemaman of the day. I don't profess to be a baseball historian (didn't even watch the movie 'Major League'), but, from what I understand, 1st Base was the most important fielding positing during the day.

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Posted By: <b>TBob</b><p>Hopefully if I don't keep getting hammered in Mastro's auction, I'll be adding some more of his cards to the shrine.<BR>Happy Birthday Bucky, we know you played your heart out and never took a dime!!!!!!

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>Hey, happy birthday, Buck!<BR><BR>(I copied page 4 from the disappeared thread--I can't get over how revolting the things Koos mentions that he thought would make him attractive are to me. It's like--we were different species.)<BR><BR>I sort of hope so.

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>...

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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Sorry Brian - I can't post it. Network 54 is not accepting my temporary files.<br><br>--------------------------------------------<BR> no disclaimer - temporarily taking responsibility for my actions

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