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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I am curious if anyone knows anything about or is familiar with tobacco stainning on the A&G cards from the N28 and N29 sets. I have not handled enough of them to know taht much and with my N2 Indian Chiefs set growing by leaps and bounds, I am seeing strange staining paterns that are not consistant with glue/album stains but aren't consistant with tobacco stains that I am familiar with. I also have 2 cards with stains that look like grill marks and seem to be too close together to be from cigarettes. I forgot to scan those but can do it if someone wants to see it. Any help would be appreciated.<BR><BR><img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~sabrjay1/front.jpg"><BR>htpp://home.earthlink.net/~sabrjay1/back.jpg

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>of course, I mistyped the back scan. Now you guys are gonna go rummage for porn pics hidden on my site <img src="/images/tongue.gif" height=14 width=14><BR><BR><img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~sabrjay1/back.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>looks like the old horse glue to me, it leaves a very dark stain that is nearly impossible to soak out. unlike the fish glue commonly used in the teens which is much lighter and soaks much easier.

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Posted By: <b>Keith O'Leary</b><p>I agree with Scott, glue stains. As for the grill pattern, I've run across that too. I think the pattern comes from the album adhesive also. The albums I'm talking about were sold as picture albums with the adhesive already applied to the pages in this pattern.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Thanks for the info. I am submitting one of the cards to SGC just to see hard they hammer it for the stain. If it's really bad, I will crack it and let the card run free again. <BR><BR>Jay

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>i have seen these albums, primarily used for photgraphs, they had a closely laid out pattern of wax? which basically adhered to the back but still made the photo removable, however with more porous paper it sometimed adhered with age or bled into the card.

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Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>I think it is a tobacco stain because it stank of tobacco. Since it appeared nm otherwise, I sent it to SGC also to see what they'd grade it.

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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Thanks for pointing them out. I just got back my IRS check - I think I will start collecting them also.

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Posted By: <b>HalleyGator</b><p><BR>I, too, believe that I will start collecting these beauties.<BR><BR>I think I will spend more than they are worth and snipe until the cows come home.

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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>...and then do some trading. There are some nice lots in the non-ebay auctions that we could buy also. I'm especially interested in those albums - I'm willing to pay way over book for them.

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Posted By: <b>john</b><p>from now on im only bidding on stuff jay bids on too

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Posted By: <b>HalleyGator</b><p><BR>Please let us know what else you really NEED for your collection so that we can buy them all up and let you smell them (a la Leon) at the National. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>Hal---Lets start a registry set and I'll race you to see who can finish it first in minimum PSA6.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Good lord, what in the world did I do to derserve this abuse, lol. See if I tell anyone the other sets I am collecting <img src="/images/tongue.gif" height=14 width=14><BR><BR>Jay

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Here ya go Hal, you start your collection with card <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1099222107&r=0&t=0&sho wTutorial=0&ed=1020879963&indexURL=0&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1099222107&r=0&t=0&sho wTutorial=0&ed=1020879963&indexURL=0&rd=1</a><BR><BR>Jay