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LuckyLarry 08-24-2025 02:44 PM

1955 Bowman #48 Error Card (new discovery?)
 
1955 Bowman #48 Error Card Milt/Frank Bolling (new discovery?)
The top left card is the listed #48 error card
The top right card is the listed #48 corrected card

https://i.ibb.co/B5hhm8Ks/Scan-5.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/8gWkWYrb/Scan-6.jpg

Heres another #48 wrong back with the wrong front?

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=38985
https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=38986

swarmee 08-24-2025 05:36 PM

Is it skinned and re-glued to be fixed? Because it looks like the top edge juts out from behind like it's been rebacked.

LuckyLarry 08-24-2025 06:31 PM

John I think you are right. I didn't notice it until you mentioned that. But especially looking at the back pf the card. Fooled me. Thanks for the reply!
Larry

G1911 08-24-2025 07:24 PM

I love cards like this people went to effort to 'fix' or improve to make up for a manufacturers mistake.

LuckyLarry 08-24-2025 08:22 PM

fooled me Greg! More than once I've noticed things after scanning and posting that weren't seen in hand.

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2534890)
I love cards like this people went to effort to 'fix' or improve to make up for a manufacturers mistake.


Volod 08-25-2025 04:07 AM

Puzzling
 
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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2534843)
Is it skinned and re-glued to be fixed? Because it looks like the top edge juts out from behind like it's been rebacked.

You're right, it does sort of look like that, but my question is, why would someone go to that much trouble - time, labor, etc. - for this card? What would be the point? To create an "error corrected" card? Doesn't figure.

swarmee 08-25-2025 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Volod (Post 2534956)
You're right, it does sort of look like that, but my question is, why would someone go to that much trouble - time, labor, etc. - for this card? What would be the point? To create an "error corrected" card? Doesn't figure.

Kid in 1955 with OCD? May not have been any profit motive, just someone who didn't know it would be corrected in the series when card #208 came out.

Smanzari 08-25-2025 08:10 AM

Neat Find!

I think this is a known error, unless I'm missing something - https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/ba...-back-48/43977

savedfrommyspokes 08-25-2025 11:09 AM

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Yes, the OP is showing known errors...the #204 card has both Bolling backs also. Don and Ernie Johnson's backs can be found with their backs swapped too.


Below is an actual peel and re-glue I found recently.

swarmee 08-25-2025 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Smanzari (Post 2534995)
Neat Find!

I think this is a known error, unless I'm missing something - https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/ba...-back-48/43977

Tigers Bolling front (2 bats) with Tigers Bolling back is only on card 204, not 48. That's the card he's asking about. So he's got a skinned error 48 Tigers back with the front of a different Tigers Bolling.

savedfrommyspokes 08-25-2025 06:28 PM

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For those still confused. There are 4 different "Bolling" cards in the 55 Bowman set.

The light wood Red Sox (one bat) card, #48, has both a Milt (correct) back and a Frank (error) back.

The dark wood Tigers (two bat) card, #204, has both a Frank (correct) back and a Milt (error) back.

If you have a light wood one bat card with #204 on the back, this is a created card and not an error.

If you have a dark wood two bat card with #48 on the back, this is also a created card and not an error.

Volod 08-26-2025 11:23 AM

Skinning...
 
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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2535167)
Tigers Bolling front (2 bats) with Tigers Bolling back is only on card 204, not 48. That's the card he's asking about. So he's got a skinned error 48 Tigers back with the front of a different Tigers Bolling.

Hey John, I guess I have missed some advances in the card counterfeiting industry. How exactly is "skinning" accomplished? Is there a high-tech device that can precisely remove the front half of a card? That is, peeling off the front without damaging it? I would like to see that process taking place. Puzzled.

bnorth 08-26-2025 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Volod (Post 2535330)
Hey John, I guess I have missed some advances in the card counterfeiting industry. How exactly is "skinning" accomplished? Is there a high-tech device that can precisely remove the front half of a card? That is, peeling off the front without damaging it? I would like to see that process taking place. Puzzled.

It has nothing to do with counterfeiting. If you look at a card from the side it is 2 pieces glued together. It is fairly easy to remove the top thin layer the front is printed on from the cardboard stock that makes up the majority of the card the back is printed on. The white front thin layer is to get a much higher quality picture.

Zach Wheat 08-26-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes (Post 2535193)
For those still confused. There are 4 different "Bolling" cards in the 55 Bowman set.

The light wood Red Sox (one bat) card, #48, has both a Milt (correct) back and a Frank (error) back.

The dark wood Tigers (two bat) card, #204, has both a Frank (correct) back and a Milt (error) back.

If you have a light wood one bat card with #204 on the back, this is a created card and not an error.

If you have a dark wood two bat card with #48 on the back, this is also a created card and not an error.

Thanks Larry

swarmee 08-26-2025 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volod (Post 2535330)
Hey John, I guess I have missed some advances in the card counterfeiting industry. How exactly is "skinning" accomplished? Is there a high-tech device that can precisely remove the front half of a card? That is, peeling off the front without damaging it? I would like to see that process taking place. Puzzled.

It's been used for decades in the T206 world, because of the major value differences for some front/back combinations. But basically, there are layers of glue holding together the different layers of most cards. Sometimes they come apart while soaking (Ramleys) or get torn off being ripped out of scrapbooks. Then it's locating the front or back you want to attach to it. You can see on the one shown here that there are two creasese running top to bottom on the back of the card, but not visible on the front of the card. Those were another way I detected the skinning/rebacking. Someone peeled off the back of an error #48, causing the creases. Then they took off the front of card 204, and glued them together.


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