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Maxjacks 06-24-2025 07:11 PM

PSA Folded my Item to fit in their Holder?!
 
I just wanted to share my PSA return and get all of your thoughts on what happened because I am quite upset. This is a payroll check from the Chicago Cubs to Larry Doyle, for whom I am a big collector. This is the only autograph I have ever seen where he signed his full name. I was quite excited to get it returned to me, only to find that my item was folded to fit inside the holder. I was not asked if I wanted this done, and certainly would have elected for a larger holder or to have my item returned to me loose.
Why is PSA Folding over items to fit in their holder? This is not simply a cut autograph, but the item itself is an artifact.
Am I justified in being upset? Is this on me for not knowing holder dimensions?

https://i.imgur.com/qJB90Rh.png

Orioles1954 06-24-2025 07:15 PM

Wow. That is actually pretty shocking.

hammertime 06-24-2025 07:19 PM

Absolutely no way that should've been done without your approval.

taul166 06-24-2025 07:24 PM

This should not have happened.

BRoberts 06-24-2025 07:26 PM

If this is as it appears, I am stunned.

Steve D 06-24-2025 07:29 PM

No way should PSA have folded that check; especially considering the fold essentially ruins the signature of Charles Weeghman, who was the Cubs' team owner who built Wrigley Field.

Steve

Beercan collector 06-24-2025 07:30 PM

They must have a bunch of people there that don’t know what they’re doing

theshowandme 06-24-2025 07:30 PM

Max, this is insane. I would contact Nat Turner and Ryan Hoge via Twitter & Instagram if I were you.

Sorry this happened to you.

edtiques 06-24-2025 07:56 PM

WOW!!! That's insane that they did that!! What were they thinking? That's causing damage to your check! I'm sorry they did this to you. I really hope that you jump on them about it. They shouldn't be able to do that and get away with it.

MantleMarisFordBerra 06-24-2025 08:10 PM

:eek:

calvindog 06-24-2025 08:15 PM

This is hilarious. I’d crack that open asap.

imdaman1964 06-24-2025 08:46 PM

Omg

nwobhm 06-24-2025 09:05 PM

WOW !!!

(P)erpetually (S)enseless (A)sswipes

bigfanNY 06-24-2025 09:29 PM

Absolutely should not have happened. They intentionally creased an item in their care.... And I am pretty sure they do have a holder it would fit in. They should fix it by putting into appropriate case and compensate you for the damage. Sorry this happened.

Swadewade51 06-24-2025 09:42 PM

Wow, don't let them get away with crediting you for the transaction. You deserve a full refund and more, cash.

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MVSNYC 06-24-2025 11:01 PM

I literally just said out loud... "Well, that's f*ckin' ridiculous."

Balticfox 06-24-2025 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxjacks (Post 2524029)
Am I justified in being upset?

Yes. Contact a lawyer and sue PSA for damages.

jayshum 06-24-2025 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2524083)
Yes. Contact a lawyer and sue PSA for damages.

Maybe contacting PSA first would be worth doing before spending money on a lawyer.

GasHouseGang 06-25-2025 12:34 AM

I can't believe they did that. They should have just sent it back and said, "could not holder".

iwantitiwinit 06-25-2025 03:10 AM

Total and absolute bull$hit. I smell lawsuit.

calvindog 06-25-2025 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2524083)
Yes. Contact a lawyer and sue PSA for damages.

What are the damages? $300,000? Or $75? I’m sure the lawyers will be lining up around the block for this case.

GrayGhost 06-25-2025 04:12 AM

Awful. So sorry

tjisonline 06-25-2025 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 2524099)
What are the damages? $300,000? Or $75? I’m sure the lawyers will be lining up around the block for this case.

Jeff, def hard to out a value on this. What would you recommend if this was your item given the 2 signatures & background

Zach Wheat 06-25-2025 06:10 AM

I thought your post was going to be about a T201 double folder! Sorry, folding over a check, shouldn't have happened

Leon 06-25-2025 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2524083)
Yes. Contact a lawyer and sue PSA for damages.

But where is he going to find a lawyer? (he says with a smirk)

Yes, that is definitely something that erased a good amount of value, imo. That is a total mistake on their part and you should be compensated. I say you should be given your full purchase price of the check and a refund on all grading/shipping fees.

tiger8mush 06-25-2025 06:44 AM

eek!
 
Was there an existing crease/fold line where they folded it? Or did they add a new crease to the check?

Hopefully no new damage was caused and they will re-holder into an appropriately sized slab.

edhans 06-25-2025 06:56 AM

Re: PSA Folded my Item to fit in their Holder?!
 
PSA's stupidity is mind blowing.

mrreality68 06-25-2025 07:01 AM

that is really un professional. They should have contacted you to discuss options
But it is especially Odd because there are so many checks that are put in different types of slabs so it should not be that complex to put in the right slab

Carter08 06-25-2025 07:05 AM

That’s just awful. This is one of the first subjects here that everyone seems to agree on too. Use that in the lawsuit!

SyrNy1960 06-25-2025 07:35 AM

Ridiculous! Just using basic common sense, one would definitely question folding the check, and then reach out to the owner first. Sorry this happened to you!

Beercan collector 06-25-2025 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2524121)
that is really un professional. They should have contacted you to discuss options
But it is especially Odd because there are so many checks that are put in different types of slabs so it should not be that complex to put in the right slab

100% - some dummy selected the first check slab that popped up , it looks like one made for smaller modern checks

Jay Wolt 06-25-2025 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beercan collector (Post 2524132)
100% - some dummy selected the first check slab that popped up , it looks like one made for smaller modern checks

Correct!
This is horrible, I'd be pissed too!

Here's the larger slab, which should have been used
The slab is larger then my scanner bed

https://qualitycards.com/pictures/84563501.jpg

Vintagedeputy 06-25-2025 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 2524046)
This is hilarious. I’d crack that open asap.

Out of all the words you could have chosen, you chose hilarious?

ullmandds 06-25-2025 08:27 AM

atrocious! sorry this happened to you!

bobbyw8469 06-25-2025 08:38 AM

What in the world!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!??! I am freaking flabbergasted. Who is working over there at PSA that thought this was A-OK to do!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!

Beercan collector 06-25-2025 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2524138)
What in the world!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!??! I am freaking flabbergasted. Who is working over there at PSA that thought this was A-OK to do!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!

Someone who’s not qualified to work with COLLECTIBLES .
“ duh it’s authenticated crunch crunch”
Authentication is important but presentation is the reason we collect this stuff

bobbyw8469 06-25-2025 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beercan collector (Post 2524139)
Someone who’s not qualified to work with COLLECTIBLES .
“ duh it’s authenticated crunch crunch”
Authentication is important but presentation is the reason we collect this stuff

Presentation and how about simply not damaging an item any more than it already is??? I'm floored.

Fred 06-25-2025 09:10 AM

That's just unbelievable.

Silver lining - good they didn't cut the signature out and place it in a more convenient smaller holder... :p

Why isn't Charles Weeghman on the flip?


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BillyCoxDodgers3B 06-25-2025 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred (Post 2524143)
That's just unbelievable.

Silver lining - good they didn't cut the signature out and place it in a more convenient smaller holder... :p




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That's what the card companies are for.

My only question: Was this check purchased already folded and later submitted in this fashion? If it wasn't, the person responsible for this needs to be fired and the fate of the person responsible for hiring this individual should also be reexamined. There's no place for this level of ineptitude, even at a TPA.

frankbmd 06-25-2025 09:25 AM

PSA should at least offer to authentic both halves of Weeghman's signature. One wonders if both halves would pass if it goes to the same grader. :eek:

commishbob 06-25-2025 09:40 AM

As Leon suggested the *least* they should do is pay the purchase cost of the check and refund all fees. I'd also suggest a huge credit towards future submissions but I have a feeling that may be moot. It would be if this was my item.

Exhibitman 06-25-2025 09:50 AM

That's awful but not unprecedented. PSA did the same thing to a rare Joe Louis appearance card.

This:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi.../louis%201.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi.../louis%202.jpg

Is supposed to look like this:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...igned%201.jpeghttps://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...igned%202.jpeg

SAllen2556 06-25-2025 09:52 AM

1 Attachment(s)
It looks like a first-grader put that check in that slab, but you gotta give PSA a break. They're still breaking in their summer staff. But seriously, that's just gut-wrenching. I hope they make it right, somehow.

Attachment 665118

Snapolit1 06-25-2025 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 2524099)
What are the damages? $300,000? Or $75? I’m sure the lawyers will be lining up around the block for this case.

Yeah, I will take on contingency for 1/3 of the $75. Huge piece of new business.


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