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BobbyVCP 05-30-2025 08:19 PM

VCP set opinion
 
I know there are a lot of VCP members here and we greatly appreciate all that you do.....

A few years ago we started tracking T206 Piedmont 350 backs normally covered in our T206 Piedmont and SC set
and now thinking that might not have been the best idea...

So would it be alright with all of you to let me combine the 2 sets together into 1 again?

Rhotchkiss 05-30-2025 10:30 PM

I said this to you a while back and (honestly) got a snarky reply. Piedmont 350 is only special for 11 cards. It is totally unspecial for all others and listing all others apart from the SC and other piedmont backs does not make sense. For example, many t206 speakers have a piedmont 350 back, which is very very common. To look for speaker comps, I need to check SC/Pied and Pied 350, which is inefficient.

As an aside, I have been a VCP gold member for many years and love the service. When are you guys going to get into tickets?

B O'Brien 05-31-2025 05:34 AM

I’m all for combining, one less thing to toggle when looking.
Thanks,
Bob

DallasAg 05-31-2025 08:34 AM

In favor of combining them. I’m also not sure what changed, but the “Piedmont & Sweet Caporal” versions of each card are not easy to get to. I thought they used to be at the top of each search (ie “t206” Cobb would have “t206 Piedmont & Sweet Caporal Ty Cobb Portrait - Red”) listed first. Would be great to get those pinned to the top since I imagine those are the most common searches

BobbyVCP 05-31-2025 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2519089)
I said this to you a while back and (honestly) got a snarky reply. Piedmont 350 is only special for 11 cards. It is totally unspecial for all others and listing all others apart from the SC and other piedmont backs does not make sense. For example, many t206 speakers have a piedmont 350 back, which is very very common. To look for speaker comps, I need to check SC/Pied and Pied 350, which is inefficient.

As an aside, I have been a VCP gold member for many years and love the service. When are you guys going to get into tickets?

Ryan,
Sorry if I gave you a snarky remark that is not me at all and of course never intentional...I do recall some of our emails though and thought all was good...

boneheadandrube 05-31-2025 10:20 AM

Please combine the sets back to one. It was unnecessary to seperate them in the first place, people can learn about the 11 difficult cards through experience. I had a similar "snarky" experience with you years ago regarding another issue, maybe two people saying something about it in one thread will help with future communication.

Rhotchkiss 05-31-2025 01:29 PM

Bobby, all good. I am in favor of eliminating Pied 350

BobbyVCP 05-31-2025 04:32 PM

In these process of combining and very slow going might actually take a week to combine...so please be patient with the process

Thanks again

Knightlax5 05-31-2025 06:38 PM

I know i'm in the minority, but I'd like a separate group for Pedimonts, especially for the 150's. I'm collecting HOF'ers in piedmont 150 backs. However I doubt most people care about the difference between piedmont and SC's

Rich Klein 05-31-2025 09:00 PM

As a cataloguer and a pricer
 
Way back when

And Based on the comments from this board, I would keep the 11 cards which matter separate. Everything else is able to be combined in my opinion

Rich

Zach Wheat 06-01-2025 09:31 AM

For anyone wondering, here is the original links where Ted Z talks about the Pied 350 Elite 11:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=87180

Elite 12

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=216276

I miss that bastion of knowledge

Yoda 06-01-2025 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Klein (Post 2519236)
Way back when

And Based on the comments from this board, I would keep the 11 cards which matter separate. Everything else is able to be combined in my opinion

Rich

Agreed.

steve B 06-02-2025 11:45 AM

I'm not sure if your system can do it, but having all the T206s grouped together is good, having a way to sort by back would be better.

parkerj33 06-03-2025 12:02 PM

i agree 100% - combine them. only 12 cards matter for p350.

Rich Klein 06-03-2025 03:40 PM

Bobby and Snarkiness
 
Bobby: There were two people who had a comment like this about you

" I had a similar "snarky" experience" and whilst we have chatted in the past, I was very disappointed in your recent "Snarky" comment about the hard work we did at Beckett before all these electronic tools became available.

Perhaps, to make even more friends in this business, a little less snarkiness would help you in your efforts

Rich

BobbyVCP 06-03-2025 04:14 PM

I guess I have a snarky sense of humor...

Rich Klein 06-03-2025 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP (Post 2519817)
I guess I have a snarky sense of humor...

Understatement of the year

Snowman 06-03-2025 11:38 PM

I'm in favor of combining them as well.

Also, when people receive snarky replies, they pretty much always deserve it, in my experience. Snark away!

t206fanatic 06-04-2025 09:12 AM

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i think if the software allows for it, continue to show the elite 12 cards p350 back sales separately, while combining all others, would be the optimal outcome

pic related.

BobbyVCP 06-04-2025 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2519909)
I'm in favor of combining them as well.

Also, when people receive snarky replies, they pretty much always deserve it, in my experience. Snark away!

Thank you

BobbyVCP 06-04-2025 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t206fanatic (Post 2519965)
i think if the software allows for it, continue to show the elite 12 cards p350 back sales separately, while combining all others, would be the optimal outcome

pic related.

I am making it so that those 12 or 11 show up in the P & SC section as a variation Piedmont 350

jchcollins 06-04-2025 10:51 AM

VCP set opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DallasAg (Post 2519117)
In favor of combining them. I’m also not sure what changed, but the “Piedmont & Sweet Caporal” versions of each card are not easy to get to. I thought they used to be at the top of each search (ie “t206” Cobb would have “t206 Piedmont & Sweet Caporal Ty Cobb Portrait - Red”) listed first. Would be great to get those pinned to the top since I imagine those are the most common searches


^^ THIS. Prewar is not my main thing; I only dabble in it, so not huge to me - but I’m not sure why I see the back options for Hindu, EPDG, or even the scraps, etc. when searching for a common T206, before the far more ubiquitous Piedmont and SC’s.


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