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Bicem 05-14-2025 03:57 PM

1916 Photo Set?
 
Was doing a little research on this photo that I recently won in the last REA.

https://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/...%20Batting.jpg

I came to the realization that it's actually part of a set/series of photos produced by the Phototone Company of Chicago (not to be confused with the Phototone Company of Boston). Labeled c1917-19, I believe the Ruth was actually most likely part of a series produced in 1916 or early 1917 as Phototone was bankrupt and sold off all their assets prior to May 1917.

It's technically a type 3 photo as it was created from an original source photo to achieve the shaded-out background, not unlike the card creation process back then which also used source photos to achieve the final desired card image. Again, printed in 1916 or possibly early 1917.

I discovered other players that have sold in past auctions that all date to 1916 based on uniform styles - Hippo Vaughn & Charles Pechous of the Cubs and Ed Cicotte of the White Sox.

https://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/...8190a_med.jpeg

https://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/...4-142143_2.png

https://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/...4-140102_2.png

All have the same embossed blind stamp although on the Ruth the street address is also provided. Perhaps the Chicago based teams were series 1 followed by other players soon after?

Think these are the most "card-like" photographs (outside of cabinet photos) that I have ever seen since they were created as a set/series with shaded out backgrounds per the artist's intent. The Cicotte is actually the exact same image found on those 1919 reprint card sets.

https://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/...4-164044_2.png

https://photos.imageevent.com/bicem/...4-164056_2.png

Is there a Joe Jackson out there somewhere?

sb1 05-14-2025 04:23 PM

Nice pick up and research. Congrats!

Baseball Rarities 05-14-2025 05:14 PM

Very cool photo Jeff.

FWIW, I think that the White Sox set is actually from 1917, not 1919.

Bicem 05-14-2025 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 2515867)
Very cool photo Jeff.

FWIW, I think that the White Sox set is actually from 1917, not 1919.

Thanks Kevin, nice catch, looks like the Cicotte is actually a little different image than the Phototone photo too. Looks like the 1917 uniform on the cards and 1916 on the photo.


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