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Peter_Spaeth 05-04-2025 01:35 PM

Truly scarce postwar cards
 
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I think this one qualifies, and just happens to be the first issue of a major HOFer. Others?

Lucas00 05-04-2025 01:47 PM

The only Northland I've seen since I've collected Red exclusively. (its been about 6 years)

Got very lucky a fellow member reached out. Never seen one for sale publicly in that time.

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raulus 05-04-2025 04:24 PM

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With a complete sheet selling recently, they’ve been in the news. Only about 5 copies known for each player, at most.

Added bonus that this issue probably takes the prize for greatest value to visual appeal ratio.

paul 05-04-2025 08:33 PM

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1982 Korean card of Tom Seaver. I was told by a friend who is fluent in Korean that it was issued by the Lotte potato chip company. I've never seen another card of any player from the set.

ValKehl 05-04-2025 09:36 PM

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I suspect the 1948 Gunther Beer Wash. Senators postcard set is the toughest post-War PC set and tougher than most of the pre-War PC sets. PSA has graded a total of 16 cards from this set, including 1 Vernon-Coan card. As best as I can tell, SGC hasn't graded any cards from this PC set.

Neal 05-05-2025 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2513729)
I think this one qualifies, and just happens to be the first issue of a major HOFer. Others?

That's awesome!

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ALR-bishop 05-05-2025 12:50 PM

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Tough Topps items

ALR-bishop 05-05-2025 01:02 PM

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Oddball tough

ALR-bishop 05-05-2025 01:12 PM

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In 1981 Topps issued several team sets cobranded with Coke. All but the Yankees had 11 cards and a Header card in their set. For some reason only 3 Yankee cards and the Header card made it to the public. This is the the 8th unissued Yankee card. The other 7 were posted above

Harliduck 05-06-2025 09:55 AM

I'd call this "scarce", not rare by any means but this little known 53 Dorman Skowron is super tough. Took me 4 months to find one when I put my set together. I got it raw and subbed it myself, presents better than a 1 (crease free, got lucky), but it's stamped and was sent. A quick check on Ebay currently and there are two spendy but decently priced...that was not the case when I was looking of course.

https://i.ibb.co/1W3t8sV/53-Bill-Dormand.jpg


About as "scarce" as anything I have...I'm sure the 63 Fleer Checklist doesn't apply...haha. I guess I'm a pretty boring post war collector.

sbfinley 05-06-2025 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Harliduck (Post 2514137)
I'd call this "scarce", not rare by any means but this little known 53 Dorman Skowron is super tough.

Wasn't the Gil Hodges Dorman PC ultra scarce for years until someone found a warehouse find of thousands of them? Or is that something I've just imagined in my advanced age.

Harliduck 05-06-2025 05:36 PM

That is true and one of the best post war stories out there. Apparently they never mailed out Gil's back in the day (the players used these to hand out to fans, and some were sold at specific stadiums) and his stash was found in the artists basement years later after he passed, not that long ago. The VERY FEW that were in the hobby were going for 5 digit prices, even for poor cards and it was considered by many as one of the rarest post war cards of them all. The discovery was purchased in whole at an auction and unfortunately for anyone who spent big bucks to get one, the value dropped exponentially. There is a PSA 10 on ebay for like $300 right now. The stash was in mint shape. I have a 7 I graded myself, and also picked up an 8 a while back for next to nothing. Just goes to show there are winners, and LOSERS when there is a big find. If you google it there are many articles on this...again, a pretty cool story.

I've read, not sure what the truth is, but Skowron and Elston Howard threw most of theirs away, thus the premium.

Rickyy 05-06-2025 06:27 PM

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Tough one.

raulus 05-06-2025 10:30 PM

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Here’s another fun one. PSA Pop 3.

For the uninitiated, the numbered version was a test, and never actually issued on boxes. The unnumbered version is pretty ubiquitous.

ALBB 05-07-2025 05:59 AM

rare
 
Bazooka Mays

In addition the unnumbered version..is found everywhere :)

Marckus99 05-07-2025 06:08 AM

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This, over any others….all day, everyday.

captainfitz 05-07-2025 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Harliduck (Post 2514247)
I've read, not sure what the truth is, but Skowron and Elston Howard threw most of theirs away, thus the premium.

My Elston Howard is in pretty good shape, but I still need one of those Skowron's. I'm hoping to find a decent one at a good price eventually. Dormand's and those little 1950 Callahans are some of my favorites non-standard cards from the 50s.

John, for your complete set, did you you go with one per player, or did you make sure to get each of the known photo variations for each guy?

Harliduck 05-07-2025 08:35 AM

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My Elston Howard is in pretty good shape, but I still need one of those Skowron's. I'm hoping to find a decent one at a good price eventually. Dormand's and those little 1950 Callahans are some of my favorites non-standard cards from the 50s.

John, for your complete set, did you you go with one per player, or did you make sure to get each of the known photo variations for each guy?


That's a super nice Elston...took me a while to pick that one up as well. I did go with all the poses, yes...and dabbled in a few of the auto positioning and no number cards but didn't focus on those. It is shocking to see the low PSA graded totals on all Dormands, seems only the 2 Mickey's are popular to sub...my set is all SGC.

The only variation that I would like to pick up one day but not sure it's even considered a "card", is the Arkansas auto dealership Johnny Sain. It's over sized and PSA has only graded 3 of them. I've never seen one available.

hcv123 05-07-2025 11:11 AM

Couple of 1 of 1's
 
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1957 Salesman sample panel: better of 2 examples I know of
1960 Clemente Bazooka complete box - only known example
1962 Jell-O complete box - only known complete box
1962 Salesman sample panel: best of 3 or 4 known examples
1968 Topps Test disc: Only known example (though there should be some various proof versions out there somewhere)
1972 Topps prototype - Only known example
1960 Mickey Mantle complete Bazooka box - Finest of 2 known examples

ScooterD 05-07-2025 12:53 PM

What is the Clemente card next to the disc?

Smanzari 05-07-2025 02:56 PM

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What is the Clemente card next to the disc?

I think that's the 1972 Topps Prototype (and the coolest one of the Grouping IMO)

Rich Klein 05-07-2025 03:11 PM

I'm gong to switch sports Here
 
And this one on EBay is not mine but,

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38836087625...3ABFBMiJylydVl

Beckett and TCDB have never catalogued this set. COMC has never had one card from this set submitted and this is the only one we found on the Bay

I picked up this card up as a raw card as part of a lot at the DCS and to be honest, both the person who sold me the lot and myself treated this card as well it's just a LeBron. Sometimes you walk into things you just don't know.

Regards
Rich

raulus 05-07-2025 03:17 PM

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Howard busting out the complete boxes!!

Here’s another 62 Jello complete box, also 1 of 1. Obviously more were made, but not many survived.

whiteymet 05-07-2025 04:04 PM

these two
 
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1963 Pepsi Bateman

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c.../50007-81078.s

1967 Dexter Press Paul Schaal only Angel in the set

Harliduck 05-07-2025 05:25 PM

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Howard busting out the complete boxes!!

Here’s another 62 Jello complete box, also 1 of 1. Obviously more were made, but not many survived.

Geez...not only survive, but dang near pristine! For some reason that Mays box just grabbed my eye...super cool, very impressive.

Powerright46blast 05-07-2025 05:49 PM

Love all the rare/scarce cards from throughout the years. Hopefully many more posts will be added with additional pictures.

raulus 05-07-2025 05:53 PM

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Geez...not only survive, but dang near pristine! For some reason that Mays box just grabbed my eye...super cool, very impressive.

And here is another just like it. Full disclosure: it’s currently mine, but I’ve got it listed on the REA marketplace, so we’ll see how long it lasts.

sflayank 05-07-2025 05:53 PM

Yoohoo
 
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Only 2 players know
Full size yoo hoo

sflayank 05-07-2025 05:59 PM

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Rarest of the rare
Not even listed in the idl set registry

sflayank 05-07-2025 06:00 PM

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Only 1 known

sflayank 05-07-2025 06:05 PM

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Only these 4 known

REG1976 05-07-2025 06:24 PM

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The only Fosforos Los Peloteros I seen complete with Tax Stamp

Neal 05-07-2025 07:31 PM

What a great thread!

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Powerright46blast 05-07-2025 07:47 PM

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Thought I would add a few of my own favorites.

Powerright46blast 05-07-2025 07:48 PM

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The only Fosforos Los Peloteros I seen complete with Tax Stamp

"What a name"!!

GeoPoto 05-08-2025 04:03 AM

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Mascot Dog Food is pretty rare and Val explained the Gunther Beer:

ScooterD 05-08-2025 07:31 AM

1971 Topps winners, empty contest box, and entry form
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sbfinley 05-08-2025 07:48 AM

There is some amazing stuff being shared in this thread. Thanks guys!

whiteymet 05-08-2025 07:57 AM

Dad's Cookies
 
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ANY 1959 Dad's Cookies cards. Issued one year in Vancouver Canada stapled to bags of cookies. Here are a few with the ultra rare album

ScooterD 05-08-2025 08:22 AM

1969 Topps Bowie Kuhn promo
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And some more modern ones:

1984 Topps Darryl Palmer (noted above - movie prop from “The Slugger’s Wife”)
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sflayank 05-08-2025 08:58 AM

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Only 1 known of any player

ALR-bishop 05-08-2025 09:33 AM

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Topps 1975 with Ansel Adams suited up....https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...AJF.SxA71mHao-

raulus 05-08-2025 12:51 PM

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ANY 1959 Dad's Cookies cards. Issued one year in Vancouver Canada stapled to bags of cookies. Here are a few with the ultra rare album

Dad’s cookies are good fun, for sure. My recollection is that most players have a few known copies. I own 2 of the Mays myself, so they’re not impossible to find!

ALR-bishop 05-08-2025 01:15 PM

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Odds and Ends

REG1976 05-08-2025 02:49 PM

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1 more for the 1980 topps coins

John1941 05-08-2025 04:03 PM

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Topps 1975 with Ansel Adams suited up....https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...AJF.SxA71mHao-

Cool set! Of the cards you shared I love best those of Naomi Savage and Ansel Adams. I really like Ansel Adams' work, and (re Naomi) posing with bat and fur coat for a baseball card is epic.

paul 05-08-2025 09:14 PM

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Here’s another fun one. PSA Pop 3.

For the uninitiated, the numbered version was a test, and never actually issued on boxes. The unnumbered version is pretty ubiquitous.

Is the 1971 numbered Bazooka Mays particularly scarce within the numbered set? I know the numbered cards are tough, but I never thought they'd have a population of only 3 each. I have about twenty of the numbered cards (but no Mays).

raulus 05-08-2025 10:05 PM

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Is the 1971 numbered Bazooka Mays particularly scarce within the numbered set? I know the numbered cards are tough, but I never thought they'd have a population of only 3 each. I have about twenty of the numbered cards (but no Mays).

They are all pretty scarce, but Mays seems to be extra scarce. Pop 3 is also a bit of a misdirect, because there are also 4 complete panels with Mays.

71buc 05-09-2025 01:39 PM

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1971 Pirate Team Issued Autograph card Bruce Kison. It’s not listed as part of the set in PSA. There is one on eBay at the moment. It’s the only one I’ve seen other than the one I have in my collection. The 1958 Clemente Team issue is scarce. The 1971 Pirates action photos are pretty tough as well especially in nice condition due to the paper stock

Zach Wheat 05-09-2025 02:46 PM

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When International Bakery was experimenting with their initial baseball issue which we now know as the 1975 Hostess Twinkies set, they experimented with different back colors including black ink and brown ink on the back. The Twinkies set differs from the normal "Hostess" set as it has black bars along the top and bottom of the card.

International Bakery's printer was out of Pittsburgh. They printed some test sheets in other colors as well including yellow, red and pink. The sheets were thrown away in the dumpster and an employee went dumpster diving after work. The sheets were recovered and were sold to a dealer. The dealer cut up and sold a number of the brown bar Hostess Twinkie cards on the open market. Most of the brown bar Hostess Twinkies you see on the market come from these sheets.

1975 Hostess Twinkies is a limited set and considered more rare than the 1975 Hostess set. The 1975 Hostess Twinkie Brown Bar variations are even more rare than the Black Bar variations, which are perhaps 1/4 more rare than the black bar variations.

To date I have never seen any of the other color - but I am told they exist. Maybe a Yount rookie in 1975 Hostess Twinkie red back variation will pop up some day. Or maybe a Ryan.....we might never know. But I am told they exist.....


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