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Lucas00 03-07-2025 02:01 AM

Help needed dating this mid 20s? Senators Stub.
 
Came along with a few photos of a cubs player who played in 1925 and 1926. I checked both years to see if the cubs played the Senators on their 30th game and neither matched. I have never attempted to date a ticket so I'm pretty lost here.
Thanks. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d51029cf90.jpg

Lucas00 03-07-2025 12:59 PM

Back is blank, not sure if that matters.

doug.goodman 03-07-2025 03:39 PM

Don't know if this is completely relevant, but Yankees tickets were the same price from 1928 thru 1932


https://keymancollectibles.com/tickets/grandstand.htm

NiceDocter 03-07-2025 06:52 PM

Maybe
 
Who was the player? That may help….. I’m pretty sure the Cubs and Senators never played each other in the those days since they weren’t in the same league. Rocky

Lucas00 03-07-2025 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NiceDocter (Post 2501768)
Who was the player? That may help….. I’m pretty sure the Cubs and Senators never played each other in the those days since they weren’t in the same league. Rocky

Joe Munson was the player. Played for the 1925 and 1926 cubs. Another stub from the lot that's football related is dated 1927. I'm thinking Joe just enjoyed attending games after his time as a player.

Lucas00 03-07-2025 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2501722)
Don't know if this is completely relevant, but Yankees tickets were the same price from 1928 thru 1932


https://keymancollectibles.com/tickets/grandstand.htm

I saw that Doug, but wasn't sure if the info pertained to other clubs or if it had to do with Rain check games.

NiceDocter 03-07-2025 08:14 PM

Interesting
 
Looks like he DID play for the “Senators” and won the triple crown !!! Don’t know how this relates….. it was the minor league Harrisburg Senators…..
Munson attended Lehigh University, where he played college baseball.[1] He then played in the minor leagues from 1918 through 1932,[2] initially playing under the name "Joe Martin".[citation needed] With the Harrisburg Senators in 1925, he won the Eastern League triple crown,[citation needed] leading the league with a .400 batting average, 33 home runs and 129 RBIs, while also recording 188 hits, 132 runs scored, and 17 triples.[2]
This was from Wikipedia….. the mystery continues but he was no scrub!!!!

Lucas00 03-07-2025 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NiceDocter (Post 2501785)
Looks like he DID play for the “Senators” and won the triple crown !!! Don’t know how this relates….. it was the minor league Harrisburg Senators…..
Munson attended Lehigh University, where he played college baseball.[1] He then played in the minor leagues from 1918 through 1932,[2] initially playing under the name "Joe Martin".[citation needed] With the Harrisburg Senators in 1925, he won the Eastern League triple crown,[citation needed] leading the league with a .400 batting average, 33 home runs and 129 RBIs, while also recording 188 hits, 132 runs scored, and 17 triples.[2]
This was from Wikipedia….. the mystery continues but he was no scrub!!!!

Definitely no Scrub, not many minor leaguers that hit over 200 home runs and bat (likely) well over .300. Very strange as to why he got such a short major league stint where he hit .287... Again pretty good. Deserved more chances.

Here is a snap of Joe in the early 20s with the Galveston Sand Crabs of the Texas League I believe this is early, likely 1922.

And one of him catching a fish in 1925 spring training on Catalina island. A real paradise for the cubs. Looks like he's walking the plank.

The third is the strangest in terms to his other namesake. It is from Joes time in Dallas, 1921 with the Dallas Submarines, again of the Texas league. It is typewritten on the back as "Joseph Carlson" Dallas Texas. And then has his hometown Renovo PA. I believe the Yankees had some kind of tie to the team like many major league clubs did in the 20s, that's why it says New York Yankees on the front.

Fourth is another 1925 spring snap from Catalina island. With a handful of teammates, Joe being on the far right. Haven't gotten to deciphering the other players yet. Love the sweaters.

I also have a postcard of Joe from 1921 in his Dallas uniform, but it is ripped in half. Hope to repair it soon. (Not pictured)

These are the main reason I bought the lot, not the stub 🤣.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...aa4b8e4be2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1551f7ad5f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ecb502ccb7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cf6067fcb8.jpg

Scott Garner 03-07-2025 09:44 PM

Hi Lucas,
The photo of the player with the fish and the last photo were likely taken on Catalina Island in CA. That was the spring training home of the Cubs.

Lucas00 03-07-2025 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 2501808)
Hi Lucas,
The photo of the player with the fish and the last photo were likely taken on Catalina Island in CA. That was the spring training home of the Cubs.

Thanks Scott, I already had that in each photos description, but I don't blame you for sharing. I was asking for help, so to switch up and start posting about photos is not typical lol.

HankAaron755 03-08-2025 10:31 AM

Is it possible this ticket came from the early 30s?

Reason being it appears the Senators used this style of ticket from the 20s into the 30s.

The link below is to PSA graded ticket stubs that look similar and they call out that they are from 1930-1939.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ket-3863375877

Lucas00 03-08-2025 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HankAaron755 (Post 2501881)
Is it possible this ticket came from the early 30s?

Reason being it appears the Senators used this style of ticket from the 20s into the 30s.

The link below is to PSA graded ticket stubs that look similar and they call out that they are from 1930-1939.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ket-3863375877


This is very likely. I just got a message from Steven Keyman. It is 1929-1932. But he can't narrow it further. So that's good enough for me.


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