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Kidnapped18 02-14-2025 10:32 PM

T206 Piedmont by series
 
Here is a breakdown of the 522 subjects with Piedmont backs by series
If a subject has a 150 card and a 350 card only the 150 is counted same for 350 v 350/460

Demmitt St. Louis and O'Hara St. Louis are excluded since they are Polar Bear backs only

39 Piedmont 150 HOFers
117 Piedmont 150 Commons
26 Piedmont 350 HOFers
158 Piedmont 350 Commons
4 Piedmont 350 Minor League HOFers
82 Piedmont 350 Minor Leaguers
48 Piedmont 350 Southern Leaguers
7 Piedmont 350/460 HOFer
41 Piedmont 350/460 Commons

brianp-beme 02-15-2025 01:28 AM

Nice info Tony for us run of the (not Old) mill T206 collectors. You inspired me to take this even a bit further...below are the breakdowns for each Piedmont back type, including the 350/460 factory 25 and 350/460 factory 42 backs, just to let collectors interested in a master Piedmont T206 set know how many Piedmont backs they would have to track down to be masterfully complete.


39 Piedmont 150 HOFers
117 Piedmont 150 Commons

65 Piedmont 350 HOFers
395 Piedmont 350 Commons, Minor Leaguers, Southern Leaguers

26 Piedmont 350/460 Factory 25 HOFers
83 Piedmont 350/460 Factory 25 Commons

21 Piedmont 350/460 Factory 42 HOFers
55 Piedmont 350/460 Factory 42 Commons

which adds up to:

151 HOF cards
650 Commons, Minor Leaguers, Southern Leaguers

for a grand total Master Piedmont set of 801 cards


Brian

frankrizzo29 02-15-2025 06:19 PM

This is fascinating, great work! If I'm understanding your methodology correctly, does this mean that there are 7 HOFer cards that have a Piedmont 350/460 but NOT a 150 or 350? I'm curious who the 7 cards are?

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Originally Posted by Kidnapped18 (Post 2496302)
Here is a breakdown of the 522 subjects with Piedmont backs by series
If a subject has a 150 card and a 350 card only the 150 is counted same for 350 v 350/460

Demmitt St. Louis and O'Hara St. Louis are excluded since they are Polar Bear backs only

39 Piedmont 150 HOFers
117 Piedmont 150 Commons
26 Piedmont 350 HOFers
158 Piedmont 350 Commons
4 Piedmont 350 Minor League HOFers
82 Piedmont 350 Minor Leaguers
48 Piedmont 350 Southern Leaguers
7 Piedmont 350/460 HOFer
41 Piedmont 350/460 Commons


Kidnapped18 02-15-2025 08:16 PM

Thanks Brian and Frank!
Most of my T206s are Piedmonts so I thought it would be fun to break down all 522 subjects.

Here are the seven:
#77 Chance, Frank (HOF) Batting
#152 Duffy, Hugh (HOF)
#303 Marquard, Rube (HOF) Follow Through
#320 McGraw, John (HOF) Glove At Hip
#322 McGraw, John (HOF) Portrait With Cap
#485 Tinker, Joe (HOF) Bat On Shoulder
#502 Wheat, Zach (HOF)

brianp-beme 02-15-2025 09:29 PM

Thanks Tony for letting me have more fun with T206 Piedmonts. Here are the HOF cards that are exclusively found with just one type of back (150 Series, 350 Series, 350/460 Series Factory 25, or the 350/460 Series Factory 42). I am once again splitting up the 350/460 Series card into the two different factories, because factories are people too.


Piedmont HOF cards that are found exclusively with the Piedmont 150 Series back:

150 Series - 4 cards

Brown (Cubs on uniform)
Evers (Cubs on uniform)
Plank
Wagner


Piedmont HOF cards that are found exclusively with the Piedmont 350 Series back:

350 Series - 11 cards

Beckley
Bender (pitching w/trees)
Bresnahan (w/bat)
E. Collins
J. Collins
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Kelley
Marquard (portrait)
McGinnity
Speaker


Piedmont HOF cards that are found exclusively with the Piedmont 350/460 Series Factory 25 back:

350/460 Series Factory 25 - 5 cards

Duffy
McGraw (glove at hip)
McGraw (portrait w/cap)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat


Piedmont HOF cards that are found exclusively with the Piedmont 350/460 Series Factory 42 back:

350/460 Series Factory 42 - 0 cards


Brian

B O'Brien 02-16-2025 07:06 AM

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You know what they say, every post needs a card!
Bob

brianp-beme 02-16-2025 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by B O'Brien (Post 2496586)
You know what they say, every post needs a card!
Bob


Nice example Bob of what a Piedmont 350/460 Factory 42 back card is all about.

The list in post # 5 consists of all the HOF player cards that were printed with one Piedmont back. Below are the HOF player cards that were printed with three different Piedmont backs (all happen to be P350, P350/460 f25 and P350/460 f42). All others not listed below or in post 5 were printed with two different Piedmont backs.


Piedmont HOF subjects printed with 3 different backs (19 cards):

Baker
Bender (pitching - no trees)
Brown (Chicago on uniform)
Chance (portrait - yellow)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Cobb (portrait - red)
Crawford (with bat)
Evers (Chicago on uniform)
Griffith (batting)
Jennings (one hand shows)
Jennings (two hands show)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Lajoie (with bat)
Mathewson (dark cap)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Willis (with bat)
Willis (throwing)
Young (glove shows)


Brian

Leon 02-20-2025 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by B O'Brien (Post 2496586)
You know what they say, every post needs a card!
Bob

I will second that motion! (Nice discussion)

Four raw Piedy's from a single family collection..

brianp-beme 02-20-2025 03:39 PM

I would be inexplicably remiss if I did not offer the following list of Piedmont Hall of Fame subjects that were printed with two Piedmont backs, broken down by the different duo back combinations.


Piedmont HOF subjects printed with both 150 series and 350 series backs (35 cards):

Bender (portrait)
Bresnahan (portrait)
Brown (portrait)
Chance (portrait)
Chesbro
Clarke (portrait)
Clarke (holding bat)
Cobb (portrait - green)
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Crawford (throwing)
Davis
Evers (portrait)
Flick
Griffith (portrait)
Jennings (portrait)
Johnson (portrait)
Joss (portrait)
Keeler (portrait)
Keeler (batting)
Lajoie (portrait)
Lajoie (throwing)
Marquard (hands at thighs)
Mathewson (portrait)
Mathewson (white cap)
McGraw (portrait - no cap)
McGraw (finger in air)
Tinker (portrait)
Tinker (hands on knees)
Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)
Wallace
Walsh
Willis (Pittsburgh)
Young (portrait)
Young (bare hand)


Piedmont HOF subjects printed with both 350/460 series factory 25 and 350/460 factory 42 backs (2 cards):

Chance (batting)
Marquard (follow through)


Brian

brianp-beme 02-20-2025 05:57 PM

And now, with an assist from the wondrous cut/paste feature that computers offer us, I present the compiled and condensed Master Piedmont list of 151 (where necessary, do the math and it works out) Hall of Fame subjects.

Feel free to print out multiple copies and wallpaper your man cave.

Brian


Piedmont HOF cards that only were printed with 1 Piedmont back (20 total cards):

150 Series - 4 subjects

Brown (Cubs on uniform)
Evers (Cubs on uniform)
Plank
Wagner

350 Series - 11 subjects

Beckley
Bender (pitching w/trees)
Bresnahan (w/bat)
E. Collins
J. Collins
Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Kelley
Marquard (portrait)
McGinnity
Speaker

350/460 Series Factory 25 - 5 subjects

Duffy
McGraw (glove at hip)
McGraw (portrait w/cap)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat

350/460 Series Factory 42[/B] - 0 subjects


Piedmont HOF subjects printed with 2 Piedmont backs (37 subjects, 74 total cards):

Piedmont 150 Series and Piedmont 350 Series backs - 35 subjects

Bender (portrait)
Bresnahan (portrait)
Brown (portrait)
Chance (portrait)
Chesbro
Clarke (portrait)
Clarke (holding bat)
Cobb (portrait - green)
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Crawford (throwing)
Davis
Evers (portrait)
Flick
Griffith (portrait)
Jennings (portrait)
Johnson (portrait)
Joss (portrait)
Keeler (portrait)
Keeler (batting)
Lajoie (portrait)
Lajoie (throwing)
Marquard (hands at thighs)
Mathewson (portrait)
Mathewson (white cap)
McGraw (portrait - no cap)
McGraw (finger in air)
Tinker (portrait)
Tinker (hands on knees)
Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)
Wallace
Walsh
Willis (Pittsburgh)
Young (portrait)
Young (bare hand)

350/460 Series Factory 25 and 350/460 Series Factory 42 backs - 2 subjects

Chance (batting)
Marquard (follow through)


Piedmont HOF subjects printed with 3 different Piedmont backs (19 subjects, 57 total cards):

350 Series, 350/460 Series Factory 25 and 350/460 Series Factory 42 backs - 19 subjects

Baker
Bender (pitching - no trees)
Brown (Chicago on uniform)
Chance (portrait - yellow)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Cobb (portrait - red)
Crawford (with bat)
Evers (Chicago on uniform)
Griffith (batting)
Jennings (one hand shows)
Jennings (two hands show)
Johnson (pitching)
Joss (pitching)
Lajoie (with bat)
Mathewson (dark cap)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Willis (with bat)
Willis (throwing)
Young (glove shows)


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