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robw1959 01-09-2025 01:56 PM

World Wide Gum Cards
 
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Please excuse me if this issue has been addressed here before, but I have never understood the reason why the values of WWG cards seem to be so depressed relative to Goudeys. They are far scarcer than their Goudey counterparts, but look identical. Some may cite the notion that American collectors don't like French printed on the backs, but what about those with only English? For example, the English-only version of Babe Ruth, card #93, is under 100 on the PSA population report. So it has scarcity going for it, along with the baseball G.O.A.T. on a great looking card, but still seems to undersell the Goudey Ruth cards, all four of which have PSA populations of well over 1,000 each.

Any thoughts about this?

Peter_Spaeth 01-09-2025 01:59 PM

Lower supply does not equate to greater demand. In this case, 33 Goudey is one of the very top classic sets in the hobby, right up there with T206 and Cracker Jack, and the hobby is just going to value it relatively more than its Canadian counterpart. That said, I suspect the gap has closed somewhat over time. WWG used to be really cheap, not any more.

BigfootIsReal 01-09-2025 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by robw1959 (Post 2486941)
Please excuse me if this issue has been addressed here before, but I have never understood the reason why the values of WWG cards seem to be so depressed relative to Goudeys. They are far scarcer than their Goudey counterparts, but look identical. Some may cite the notion that American collectors don't like French printed on the backs, but what about those with only English? For example, the English-only version of Babe Ruth, card #93, is under 100 on the PSA population report. So it has scarcity going for it, along with the baseball G.O.A.T. on a great looking card, but still seems to undersell the Goudey Ruth cards, all four of which have PSA populations of well over 1,000 each.

Any thoughts about this?

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ALR-bishop 01-09-2025 02:24 PM

Was Peter one of them ?

Peter_Spaeth 01-09-2025 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 2486949)
Was Peter one of them ?

I was one of the sheep.

gunboat82 01-09-2025 02:41 PM

All things being equal, I’d rather have a WWG than a Goudey. But I don’t want to pay Goudey prices for the reason you’ve pinpointed: if I need to sell for whatever reason, the market for my WWG will be smaller than the market for a similar-looking Goudey.

parkplace33 01-09-2025 02:44 PM

Because for most card series, Canadian issues are less valuable than their US counterparts.

packs 01-09-2025 02:57 PM

One of my favorite cards in my collection. It cost me $515 at the time of purchase, which was probably about half of the Goudey cost at the time:

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robw1959 01-09-2025 06:32 PM

Five hundred bucks! Dang . . . that had to be quite some time ago.

robw1959 01-09-2025 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2486957)
Because for most card series, Canadian issues are less valuable than their US counterparts.

Really??? I have never heard that before. In fact, I can think of a counter-example: OPC cards. Don't vintage OPC cards hold their own very well versus Topps?

Peter_Spaeth 01-09-2025 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by robw1959 (Post 2487008)
Really??? I have never heard that before. In fact, I can think of a counter-example: OPC cards. Don't vintage OPC cards hold their own very well versus Topps?

The OPC Gretzky is much pricier than the Topps. Again, I think it's because 33 Goudey is such an iconic set, hobby top 3 or so.

packs 01-09-2025 07:03 PM

Looks like PSA lists 72 of the yellow and SGC has graded 34. Even if they were all unique that's surprisingly low population.

parkplace33 01-10-2025 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by robw1959 (Post 2487008)
Really??? I have never heard that before. In fact, I can think of a counter-example: OPC cards. Don't vintage OPC cards hold their own very well versus Topps?

Again, some do. But most do not.

samosa4u 01-11-2025 11:58 AM

Just a few things I wanna' point out here:

- According to my research, World Wide Gum Co. and Goudey were the same company. We can't treat them like two separate entities. In other words, this was not like a Topps / O-Pee-Chee kinda' relationship.

- Like Peter said, the price gap has been closing over the years. The reason for this is obvious: people got priced-out of the Goudey market and started looking for cheaper alternatives.

- I don't think that Americans are bothered by the French backs. Joe DiMaggio's two best cards (36' WWG and 37' O-Pee-Chee) are CDN issues with French backs.


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