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benjulmag 12-23-2024 06:00 PM

This caught my eye.
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/19680260037...YAAOSw7ilnMmxD

All opinions welcome.

ooo-ribay 12-23-2024 06:16 PM

I have no opinions on it, at all, but you’d think someone with an $8000 item could take more than one picture and write more than a few words for the description.

UKCardGuy 12-23-2024 07:34 PM

I know just a little about Elmer Chickering because I was watching a Elmer Chickering cabinet photo recently and did a bit of homework on it before the price went way above my budget.

Elmer Chickering was THE photographer in Boston in his day. I think he photographed most of the Boston players and teams.

Here's a thread from 2012
https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=160799

I can't tell you if $8K represents good value for that cabinet or not. But it's one heck of a cool photo.

ValKehl 12-23-2024 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2483372)
I have no opinions on it, at all, but you’d think someone with an $8000 item could take more than one picture and write more than a few words for the description.

And ship it via a method safer than USPS Ground Advantage - e.g. Registered Mail.

benjulmag 12-24-2024 07:52 AM

I don't recall seeing a photo from this period in that size, which makes me wonder if it is a first-generation photo. That coupled with the fact the resolution doesn't look as sharp as other photos I have seen makes me think it is second generation.

ooo-ribay 12-24-2024 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benjulmag (Post 2483451)
I don't recall seeing a photo from this period in that size, which makes me wonder if it is a first-generation photo. That coupled with the fact the resolution doesn't look as sharp as other photos I have seen makes me think it is second generation.

I know nothing about these so I wouldn’t know what size to expect. That said, it would be nice if the seller could type out more than an 11 word description and maybe even include the measurements!

WillowGrove 12-24-2024 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benjulmag (Post 2483451)
I don't recall seeing a photo from this period in that size, which makes me wonder if it is a first-generation photo. That coupled with the fact the resolution doesn't look as sharp as other photos I have seen makes me think it is second generation.

Hi Corey. I collect 19th century and have seen this cabinet before without thinking anything odd. I believe you may have meant you don't recall seeing TEAM photos from this period in this size? If so, I'd agree with that.

Just to think aloud...Chickering took the photo and I'd assume Chickering put it on that mount. So for it to be a second generation photo it would have to have been shot with a smaller negative, then resized to slightly larger cabinet size. Or Chickering took the original with a larger camera/glass negative and resized it Down to a cabinet size. (Please someone correct me if I got that process wrong!). So IF either are true then yes it would be a second generation. But still period.

I believe this exact photo exists in a larger size. Interesting to me that they say C. 1890s when the year is on the photo. Maybe that's your exact point?

Peter

benjulmag 12-24-2024 10:05 AM

Thanks, Peter for the response.

I agree it is period, though am intrigued since the Chickering Boston team images I have seen from this period have all been on larger mounts. That coupled with the inferior resolution compared to the larger images makes me believe it is second generation. If that is the case, this is the first period Chickering team image I recall seeing that is a second-generation photo.

Along the same lines, N690 team cabinets on the black mounts I believe are second generation, and I am pretty sure the Joseph Hall Washington cabinet (which says on it "published" by Joseph Hall) is a second-generation photo. Interestingly, the N690 cabinets on the pink mounts I believe are first generation. If you compare them to the black mount cabinets, the resolution is noticeably sharper.

sb1 12-24-2024 10:39 AM

Comes from a same photo shooting of individual players which show up from time to time and I believe they did them in most of the years of late 1890's.

Leon 12-24-2024 11:00 AM

I've had at least one, and maybe two, of the larger Chickering team cabinets. I have a feeling this image might be poor only when blown up on screen. To me, it looks quite focused until blown up.
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