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GasHouseGang 12-21-2024 12:46 PM

Sad News, Rickey Henderson Passes
 
Sad news today. Just saw the confirmation.

Rickey Henderson, a Baseball Hall of Famer and MLB’s all-time stolen bases leader, has died, The Post has confirmed.

He was 65 and passed while in the Oakland area on Friday after battling pneumonia, per TMZ.

Mike D. 12-21-2024 12:48 PM

Just days before his famous Christmas birthday. Very sad and shocking news, as he was only 65. RIP.

The Top 5 Rickey Henderson Rookie & Early Career Cards

rjackson44 12-21-2024 12:57 PM

Rip rickey

jingram058 12-21-2024 12:58 PM

Shocking to say the least. Very sad. RIP...

Kzoo 12-21-2024 01:00 PM

Wow, my favorite player to collect while growing up. RIP Rickey!

brunswickreeves 12-21-2024 01:10 PM

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RIP Rickey, may you forever live in the field of dreams.

Beercan collector 12-21-2024 01:43 PM

A game always got better once he drew a walk

gonefishin 12-21-2024 01:46 PM

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Wow - RIP Rickey. You sure made a lot of people smile and laugh while you were here.

Kawika 12-21-2024 01:57 PM

Lived in the Bay Area in the 1980s and went to a lot of A's games. The team was loaded with talent with Rickey Henderson leading the pack. What an exciting player he was. Shocked to learn of his passing. A sad day.

tiger8mush 12-21-2024 02:05 PM

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He certainly added an exciting element to the game.
RIP "Man of Steal"

Brian 12-21-2024 02:07 PM

Very sad to hear this. Long may you run, Rickey, and condolences to the family.

JollyElm 12-21-2024 02:14 PM

Damn!!!! I just taped part of an SGC Blind Reveal video where I was talking about what an absolute menace he was on the basepaths and how much he changed the game. Wow, just shocked. RIP Rickey.

D. Bergin 12-21-2024 02:15 PM

Oh Wow! Loved his time on the Yanks. Maybe the funnest player to ever watch play the game. Baseball turned into a white knuckle video game whenever he came up to the plate and got on base......however he decided to get on base...if he didn't just decide to launch a HR instead.

Say what you want about him. Big Ego! Sometimes ignorant of baseball etiquette! Clubhouse disruptor! Sometimes got bored too easily and would seemingly fall into pouting sessions..........whatever.

The man LOVED to play baseball, as evidenced by his 3 years of Independent League ball in his mid-40's, after MLB was done with him.

Age 45 in the Atlantic League he stole 37 bases in 39 attempts in 91 games. Had a .462 OBP that season, LOL.

I've been to Atlantic League games. It's not bad baseball. Mostly older experienced guys who are no longer considered prospects, but were mostly still very productive players in the farm systems they came out of. Lots of former Quad A type players and former Major Leaguers.

bmattioli 12-21-2024 02:22 PM

Everyone loves Ricky.. RIP..

mrreality68 12-21-2024 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 2482794)
Oh Wow! Loved his time on the Yanks. Maybe the funnest player to ever watch play the game. Baseball turned into a white knuckle video game whenever he came up to the plate and got on base......however he decided to get on base...if he didn't just decide to launch a HR instead.

Say what you want about him. Big Ego! Sometimes ignorant of baseball etiquette! Clubhouse disruptor! Sometimes got bored too easily and would seemingly fall into pouting sessions..........whatever.

The man LOVED to play baseball, as evidenced by his 3 years of Independent League ball in his mid-40's, after MLB was done with him.

Age 45 in the Atlantic League he stole 37 bases in 39 attempts in 91 games. Had a .462 OBP that season, LOL.

I've been to Atlantic League games. It's not bad baseball. Mostly older experienced guys who are no longer considered prospects, but were mostly still very productive players in the farm systems they came out of. Lots of former Quad A type players and former Major Leaguers.

Saw him in the Atlantic League. Blessed for my kids were able to see him play and he was vintage Ricky the way he has that “snapping catch”/flick of wrist/glove after catching the ball.
And he still hustled when he played
One of my favorite players
Passed so young.
Will be missed
RIP

D. Bergin 12-21-2024 02:35 PM

Rickey had a certain thing I've never seen in any other prolific base stealer that I can't quite put my finger on.

He'd get on base any way he could....bunt, walk, forced error, chop hit, or HR.

He'd get into a pitchers head, any way he could...1st inning or 9th. He'd force balks, he'd make that pitcher pay attention to him, instead of the batter the pitcher was facing...he'd mesmerize the entire infield to pay attention to him and him alone.

Maybe it was just a childhood hallucination, but I swear I've seen him fake a bunt and hit a HR instead....possibly more then once...:D

It's not a coincidence that Don Mattingly had 145 RBI's and won an MVP Award overwhelmingly, the 1st season a fully motivated Rickey came to the Yanks. A season which in statistical hindsight, Rickey accumulated a full 3.4 WAR more then Mattingly, in 16 less games played.

SyrNy1960 12-21-2024 02:42 PM

Truly sad! RIP Rickey Henderson ⚾️

Fred 12-21-2024 02:56 PM

Only 65. IMHO, Leadoff GOAT.

RIP

marzoumanian 12-21-2024 02:59 PM

A Truly Dynamic Ballplayer
 
As others have said, what a shock. A sweet guy. My favorite Rickey story is when he received a one million dollar check from the Yankees. It was never cashed so the Yankees called him about it. He told them he had framed it and put it on his wall.
I will never forget when he stole 130 bases (I believe) in 1982. It was so exciting. Thank you, Rickey, for giving baseball such a charge. We are all forever grateful. RIP.

Phishphan21 12-21-2024 03:04 PM

Saw him when As were playing @ Skydome in early 90s
Our seats were about 15 rows back down 3rd base line between 3b and LF
Throughout first few innings people kept stopping by to chat with lady couple rows up all decked out in fancy dress and tons of jewelry
Usher would later let us know it was Mama Henderson and she was just as gracious with everybody as people describe Rickey
Haven’t thought about that in a while


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GeoPoto 12-21-2024 03:06 PM

His durability was extraordinary.

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Fred 12-21-2024 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by marzoumanian (Post 2482808)
As others have said, what a shock. A sweet guy. My favorite Rickey story is when he received a one million dollar check from the Yankees. It was never cashed so the Yankees called him about it. He told them he had framed it and put it on his wall.
I will never forget when he stole 130 bases (I believe) in 1982. It was so exciting. Thank you, Rickey, for giving baseball such a charge. We are all forever grateful. RIP.


That's also one of my favorite Rickey memories/stories. He was approachable and didn't mind signing for the kids. Just an incredible lead off talent.

JustinD 12-21-2024 03:21 PM

Ouch. That one’s another nail in the coffin of my childhood. I am shocked.:(

Eric72 12-21-2024 03:27 PM

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Rest in peace, Rickey.

Huck 12-21-2024 04:09 PM

Wow. I had to check ESPN on that report and found nothing. I guess the crew at ESPN is caught up in the college football playoff. He always was a great signing guest. Gone to soon.

DodgerMike22 12-21-2024 04:19 PM

RIP Rickey

clydepepper 12-21-2024 04:27 PM

It amazes me that I never saw him mentioned when the subject was 'Greatest Living Player'.

While only an average defender, he was, IMO, one of the top 20 players of ALL-TIME. What an offensive weapon he was!

When I turn 69 in three weeks, I'll still think of Rickey always being in perfect shape...65 was too young...and I admit to being shocked that he left so soon.

Life remains fragile. RIP Rickey.


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nwobhm 12-21-2024 04:37 PM

RIP Rickey

tiger8mush 12-21-2024 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 2482833)
It amazes me that I never saw him mentioned when the subject was 'Greatest Living Player'.

Rickey was mentioned literally in the first two replies to the "Greatest Living Player" thread you started earlier this year after Willie passed, and mentioned numerous times thru out. One member even stated:

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2442339)
But my pick for greatest living player is Rickey Henderson. When people talked about Willie being the greatest living player, it was the combination of his 5 tools that gave him that title.

I don't think there's another living player with the five-tool talent of Rickey Henderson. Every generation there's another Mantle, Griffey, Trout, etc. but there will never be another Rickey Henderson. Lots of speed in the world but you still need four other elite skills to get to where he was.

He was definitely mentioned along with the likes of Bonds/Griffey/Ryan/Koufax/Pujols/Clemens/A-Rod/Ohtani/Judge

Chesbro41 12-21-2024 05:31 PM

Rickey
 
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I don't post a lot but here's my take on Rickey.
Rickey could have crushed it in any era.
Dead Ball. You got it. Base to base.
Power... if necessary.
OBP, sure why not.

Rickey coulda had the highest average if that's all Rickey wanted.
Rickey coulda hit the most home runs.
But scoring runs wins games.
So Rickey always tried to get home faster than anyone.

Wish Rickey would have spent a little more time with us before Rickey went home today. But that's Rickey being Rickey.

Brent G. 12-21-2024 05:47 PM

There will never be another Rickey. Incredible athletes like him, Tim Raines, and Vince Coleman rarely choose baseball these days. It's sad that the sport is largely dead in the black community.

mortimer brewster 12-21-2024 06:06 PM

RIP Rickey,

Darn, now the players who made their debut in my adult years are starting to pass.

jayshum 12-21-2024 06:10 PM

Joe Posnanski had a blog post obituary for Rickey that talked about all the teams he played for and the different numbers he wore. It included the story below that made me laugh. RIP.

"When he was traded to Toronto in 1993, Turner Ward wore No. 24, so Rickey briefly wore No. 12. He quickly bought No. 24 from Ward, for a reported $25,000. He also took Ward’s locker and his spot in leftfield. “I told my wife to stay away from him,” Ward said."

rats60 12-21-2024 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger8mush (Post 2482851)
Rickey was mentioned literally in the first two replies to the "Greatest Living Player" thread you started earlier this year after Willie passed, and mentioned numerous times thru out. One member even stated:



He was definitely mentioned along with the likes of Bonds/Griffey/Ryan/Koufax/Pujols/Clemens/A-Rod/Ohtani/Judge

At the 2015 All Star Game, MLB honored the Franchise Four, the greatest living players, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Sandy Koufax and Johnny Bench. I agree that they were all better than Henderson. Koufax and Bench are still alive.

perezfan 12-21-2024 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 2482867)
At the 2015 All Star Game, MLB honored the Franchise Four, the greatest living players, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Sandy Koufax and Johnny Bench. I agree that they were all better than Henderson. Koufax and Bench are still alive.

Agree.

tiger8mush 12-21-2024 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 2482867)
At the 2015 All Star Game, MLB honored the Franchise Four, the greatest living players, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Sandy Koufax and Johnny Bench. I agree that they were all better than Henderson. Koufax and Bench are still alive.

My reply was simply to the poster saying Rickey wasn't mentioned in the "Greatest Living Player" thread, when he clearly was mentioned. I wasn't making a case that Rickey was better than anybody.

z28jd 12-21-2024 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 2482833)
It amazes me that I never saw him mentioned when the subject was 'Greatest Living Player'.

While only an average defender, he was, IMO, one of the top 20 players of ALL-TIME. What an offensive weapon he was!

When I turn 69 in three weeks, I'll still think of Rickey always being in perfect shape...65 was too young...and I admit to being shocked that he left so soon.

Life remains fragile. RIP Rickey.


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There was a poll on this site right after Mays died in which we picked the greatest living player and more than 400 people voted. Henderson finished sixth in that poll, though one right ahead of him was Pete Rose, who passed between Mays and Henderson.

I noted in my comment for that poll that I did an informal survey among 14 people I know outside of the board (including myself in that count) and Bonds and Henderson were the only two people who got votes. Pujols and Maddux were both named as honorable mentions twice, but only Bonds and Henderson got votes.

I would say we could do another vote, but it would be a waste because Bonds won by a huge landslide the first time. No one else even got half as many votes as him.

BRoberts 12-21-2024 07:12 PM

Joe DiMaggio continues to insist he be referred to as baseball's greatest living player.

Kidnapped18 12-21-2024 08:15 PM

Rickey was one of my favorite ballplayers of all time!
Greatest lead off hitter, stolen base king and he played left field for my A's during the '80s
I had to have his rookie card in the '80s and I still have the same card today.

RIP

samosa4u 12-21-2024 09:01 PM

I'm shocked, man. Only 65 too. F*cking pneumonia. I got this sh*t last winter and it took over a month for it to f*ck off. It was caused by a virus too and so the pills did nothing. The hardest part was trying to sleep at night ...

Try to stay away from sick people and mask up if you have to. Wash hands frequently as well. Too much nasty sh*t out there.

V117collector 12-21-2024 09:04 PM

No way, that's sad news! RIP to one of the greats...

h2oya311 12-21-2024 10:55 PM

RIP Rickey!

Henderson is way too underrated and IMO was the one of the top 10 to ever play the game.

My first “focus” when I got back into collecting was a master Rickey Henderson “set”. It’s an impossible task made even more impossible by all the extreme rarities out there. At one point, I had over 2,000 unique contemporary Henderson cards (pre-2006), but sold many of my rarer Henderson collectibles as I transitioned to collecting HOF rookies. I still have one “one-of-a-kind” Rickey (shown at the bottom below).

There is quite a huge contingent of passionate Rickey Henderson collectors and there are some unbelievable collections out there.

Here are a few cards that are no longer part of my collection. I’m happy to have been a temporary caretaker of so many great cards!

1978-79 Mexican League Sticker (only one known):
https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...%20Sticker.jpg

1982 Fleer Test:
https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...r%20Test_1.jpg

1982 Topps Blackless:
https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...lackless_1.jpg

1977 Chong:
https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...C%20_sold_.jpg

1981 Granny Goose:
https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...e%20_sold_.jpg

1984 Topps “Head In Box” Test Proof:
https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...st%20Proof.jpg

And the only rarity still in my collection (a “one-of-a-kind”)….

1987 Starting Lineup Talking Baseball Prototype:
https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...ll%20Proof.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...f%20_back_.jpg

Balticfox 12-21-2024 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Beercan collector (Post 2482780)
A game always got better once he drew a walk.

Precisely! That's what's missing from the game these days and it's very sadly missed. Mayhem on the base paths adds immeasurably to the game.

:(

Collectorsince62 12-21-2024 11:49 PM

Very early in Rickey's career he was an autograph guest at a show in St. Louis. I was helping out in some small capacity and ended up sitting near him before the signings began. Johnny Mize was also signing that day. I think everyone expected Henderson to be too cool for the room, but he turned out to be a great guest. I sat in amazement as Rickey asked Mize about hitting. The Big Cat talked for quite a while and Rickey hung on every word. It was inspiring to see an already successful young superstar eager to learn from a great player 45 years his senior.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 12-22-2024 04:03 AM

For all his hilarious Rickeyisms, he was truly a genius on the diamond. What a wonderful story regarding Mize. It goes to prove that the best are forever learning, always students.

Rickey would have made for a very interesting manager if only he could have learned English! :). Imagine Rickey as manager with Yogi as a coach. What I would have given to be at those press meetings.

Kutcher55 12-22-2024 04:29 AM

Wasn’t a big fan for most of his career, although he did seem to mature later on in some ways. Back in 82 the year he stole 130 my dad and I were on a west coast trip and went to a midsummer Oakland game. The A’s fell behind 6-0 early and Henderson drew a walk and immediately tried to steal 2nd. They pitched out and threw him out by a mile. My dad commented (correctly imo) that it was a selfish play and bad baseball given the game situation. I also didn’t like how Rickey seemed to invent that odd glove flip after making routine catches on fly balls. I don’t know if he was the first to do it but I recall seeing him do it. This is unfundamental baseball of course. You’re supposed to catch everything with two hands and it always struck me as unnecessary bombast. I also didn’t love when he hoisted 3rd base in the air when he beat Brock’s record, although in retrospect I’m probably being a snob about that and it was kind of cool and also spoke volumes about his personality. He went to quite a few teams. Just struck me as a mercenary me first type, certainly not humble in any event. Over time, the good, playful side of his personality came out and he seemed to mature with life experience, like most people do. In any event, he was an outstanding player.

Belfast1933 12-22-2024 05:44 AM

“Best ever….”

Not many unarguable “best ever” players in baseball history:

Nolan Ryan - best ever strike out pitcher
Mariano Rivera - best ever closer
Willie Mays - best ever all around player

Rickey Henderson - best ever leadoff hitter

After 140 or so years of history, it’s really something to be be the undisputed best at anything in this game - and Rickey was one of those few.

What a legendary player he was

GeoPoto 12-22-2024 06:17 AM

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My son-in-law grew up an Oakland A's fan during Rickey's prime. As a kid he had a poster in his bedroom of the iconic photograph of Rickey holding third base over his head immediately after breaking the record and just before the "I am the greatest" speech. His mother had taken the poster to a show and gotten Rickey to sign it. As you might expect, the poster disappeared between high school and marriage.

Several years ago, I commissioned a mosaic of the poster made from baseball cards and gave it to him. It strikes me as the way that Rickey would like to be remembered:

Snapolit1 12-22-2024 08:04 AM

This one really sucks.

Rickey was an amazing talent but to me the greatest thing about him was his personality. He made zero effort to conform to others' wishes. In a sport of great conformity, where guys make it their job to enforce ancient "unwritten rules" -- like they are working towards achieving world peace or curing cancer, as opposed to playing a child's game -- Rickey was who he was. He was thoughtful and kind and 100% genuine. He wasn't afraid to be weird as hell. He wasn't Derek Jeter repeating the same 15 phrases for a career, or Mike Piazza basically doing the same, but 110% this is who am am, like it or lump it. Funny guy and everyone says a great teammate. Imagine being as great as he was and just maintaining your authentic self and not bending to how others want you to act. That's a goal any one in any field could strive for.

Met him once with my son, who was maybe 8. Last day of the season for the Newark Bears. Fans could come on the field and met the players take pictures. I assumed Rickey, one of the greatest of all time wouldn't not be out there with a line up of basically minor league talent. Nope, there he was. Standing off by himself. My son and I approached him and Rickey made small talk and signed my son's hat. A great memory. For such a boisterous guy he seemed incredibly quiet and shy.

So many great Rickey stories. This is a pretty well known one and tells a lot about who he (and the aforementioned catcher) are.

https://not.fangraphs.com/another-re...-the-greatest/

Bpm0014 12-22-2024 08:36 AM

…ancient "unwritten rules"…

These ancient “unwritten rules” are what makes baseball the greatest sport in the world. No other sport has these…


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