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Vintagedeputy 12-15-2024 09:05 PM

Which Wagner would you rather have and why?
 
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I’d love to hear your opinions.

Eric72 12-15-2024 09:10 PM

I don't collect those, so take this with a grain of salt:

The SGC version looks better to me. The tape (or whatever it is) on the PSA version is quite distracting.

Gorditadogg 12-15-2024 09:16 PM

I am usually not a fan of As, but when I buy a card I like to look at it, so in this case I would get the SGA Authentic.

Casey2296 12-15-2024 09:38 PM

I'm not a Colgan guy but would choose the A. I'm an image collector and Wagners Horner image is tops, but out of my range.
My favorites would be the Max Stein, E94, PC796 solo and w/Cobb, and Pinkerton in that order.

brunswickreeves 12-15-2024 09:51 PM

I’d go with the 1, given I prefer numerical grades over Authentic, and this proof only has 4 total graded, with PSA 1 ranked 3rd.

ValKehl 12-15-2024 10:38 PM

The SGC Authentic all day every day because it has much greater eye appeal to me.

Vintagedeputy 12-15-2024 10:52 PM

Thank you, everyone for the responses thus far. The SGC Authentic received the A grade because SGC believes that the right side is trimmed. It definitely has an odd cut to it but being that these card’s history is virtually unknown, it’s hard to say that it wasn’t just hand cut or meant to be that way. That SGC card is mine.

The PSA 1 just sold at auction for $6,600.

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=202346

Snowman 12-15-2024 10:52 PM

Is this a joke? All you guys that are allergic to Authentic slabs crack me up. One of these two cards is better than the other, and it's not the one in the numeric slab lol

Fred 12-15-2024 11:27 PM

Easy "A".

It presents so much better. The PSA graded sample looks like it had the entire boarder trimmed off which makes you wonder how it was given a numerical grade and then it would be interesting to know (I think I can guess) why the SGC example was assigned the A.

This goes back to TPGs not having a clue about certain card issues. For example, any Zeenut that had the coupon clipped is an A card, yet the TPGs continue to assign numerical grades to them. Uh, the coupon was clipped, cut off - doesn't that indicate an alteration which leads to the A on the flip? That topic has been beatin so badly that it's not beating a dead horse anymore, it's like mutilating the horse after it was beat dead.

And to reiterate - I'd take that A card any day.

Tabe 12-15-2024 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2481553)
Is this a joke? All you guys that are allergic to Authentic slabs crack me up. One of these two cards is better than the other, and it's not the one in the numeric slab lol

C'mon, the tape across the front and stains everywhere give the 1 character.

brunswickreeves 12-16-2024 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2481553)
Is this a joke? All you guys that are allergic to Authentic slabs crack me up. One of these two cards is better than the other, and it's not the one in the numeric slab lol

Couldn’t the 1 be cracked out, tape removed, and resubmitted for another 1 grade?

mrreality68 12-16-2024 04:47 AM

Eye Appeal

Kidnapped18 12-16-2024 05:43 AM

SGC A is the one I would rather have. The PSA 1 with the tape messes up the image which is key.

LEHR 12-16-2024 06:03 AM

The SGC A all day. If I wanted one of these I wouldn't even consider the taped card at just about any price.

Vintagedeputy 12-16-2024 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred (Post 2481555)
Easy "A".

…. and then it would be interesting to know (I think I can guess) why the SGC example was assigned the A.

SGC believes the right side has been trimmed.

darwinbulldog 12-16-2024 09:23 AM

SGC because it's better. Eye appeal is better of course, but even apart from that, the alteration of the PSA one is more obvious. The fact that they gave it a numerical grade is sort of beside the point.

gunboat82 12-16-2024 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy (Post 2481608)
SGC believes the right side has been trimmed.

I wonder if PSA realizes that the one it graded has been taped.

Fuddjcal 12-16-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by brunswickreeves (Post 2481566)
Couldn’t the 1 be cracked out, tape removed, and resubmitted for another 1 grade?

And maybe be put in a different holder. I just think both the cards look like hell, crooked in the slabs,:D. The PSA slab really looks bad, but that's their style.

Mine's at least straight. :D Seriously though, great card and strong price on "the only PSA copy", "Fresh to the hobby" & "newly discovered". I think it's 2K PSA dummy tax, & 1 K for each verbal blow job. It's one of the favorites in my collection. :) The "A" looks just as good to me! I'd enjoy it and straighten it out in the holder if you can.:), signed, Anal Eddie. Happy Holidays everyone

NiceDocter 12-16-2024 11:40 AM

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Which would you rather have…… a better card or a better slab????

StraightRaceCards 12-16-2024 11:44 AM

I bet the PSA 1 is worth more sadly.

I usually hesitate with A grades, but it definitely presents better and I like the contrast of the slab with the card.

Neal 12-16-2024 11:58 AM

I am more accepting of "Authentic grades" for prewar and would choose the SGC slab without any hesitation.

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BigfootIsReal 12-16-2024 12:08 PM

It's all up to the tape and centering Savants.

glchen 12-16-2024 12:24 PM

SGC one is the better one since the PSA has tape that covers that player's face, hurting the eye appeal of the card.

perezfan 12-16-2024 01:00 PM

Obviously the SGC copy.

Anyone who chooses "Tape Face" over a nice clean image is a complete slave to the Grading Companies.

Fuddjcal 12-16-2024 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NiceDocter (Post 2481646)
Which would you rather have…… a better card or a better slab????

I would not buy a beautiful card in a effed up slab for the kind of money we are shelling out to them. If they can't get it in the right slab, I'll move on.

Fuddjcal 12-16-2024 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal (Post 2481653)
It's all up to the tape and centering Savants.

I would prefer a pinhole and a slab that fits the card.

Fuddjcal 12-16-2024 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2481667)
Obviously the SGC copy.

Anyone who chooses "Tape Face" over a nice clean image is a complete slave to the Grading Companies.

But but but, it's for my Register 1 of 1 PSA 10


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