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samosa4u 11-26-2024 02:22 PM

Opinions needed on Goudey Ruth
 
I own a few Canadian versions of this card (World Wide Gum Co.) and I am interested in adding some Goudeys to my collection.

I came across this one and wanted all your opinions on it:

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=203077

Doesn't it look too narrow?? Did the Goudeys differ a lot in size ??

Compare the left border of this PSA 5 to this one below:

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=203079

You can see the PSA 2 has a much larger left border.

Thanks

CardPadre 11-26-2024 02:45 PM

Opinions needed on Goudey Ruth
 
I would not be happy staring at the perimeter of either one of those cards for any length of time. Goudey Ruths are my favorite cards, but I don’t play in the EX range (except my 144 is probably EX “erased”). You can see how large the borders can be on this example below (not my card). Ultimately it has to meet your aesthetic requirements. As long as it’s in a PSA slab, it is whatever the slab says it is.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9e71cb0385.jpg

oldjudge 11-26-2024 02:51 PM

Amazing how there is often an inverse relationship between grade and border width

robw1959 11-26-2024 02:54 PM

Sizes do show slight differences from that period among Goudey cards and Diamond Star cards as well. The cutting equipment wasn't as precise in measurements on those vintage cards compared to the modern ones.

Peter_Spaeth 11-26-2024 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by robw1959 (Post 2477255)
Sizes do show slight differences from that period among Goudey cards and Diamond Star cards as well. The cutting equipment wasn't as precise in measurements on those vintage cards compared to the modern ones.

For sure. That said, there is a much higher percentage of smaller ones in mid and high grade slabs than larger ones, it seems. And the thing is, I am convinced, the eye gets used to the smaller ones over the years.

brianp-beme 11-26-2024 04:21 PM

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Definitely my Goudey Ruth has left and right side borders that, even accounting for the one obvious visible flaw of this card (being off-center), are substantially larger than the 'eek' high grade Ruth Goudey cards in the REA auction. Even the smaller right border on my card appears to be larger than most borders on their top-notch examples.

Brian (my Ruth is side-notch)

Matt74 11-26-2024 05:19 PM

I'm just wondering why the 2 cards are in SGC slabs with PSA labels.

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-26-2024 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt74 (Post 2477284)
I'm just wondering why the 2 cards are in SGC slabs with PSA labels.

I'm assuming that's a joke. They're taken on a black background, in case it wasn't a joke.

samosa4u 11-26-2024 10:46 PM

I did more research on this, and yes, it looks like they were cut all over the place. I found many under-sized examples online, even lower-grade:

https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.ne...3954745782.jpg

But I still hate under-sized cards!

ALBB 11-27-2024 04:53 AM

Ruth
 
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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2477272)
Definitely my Goudey Ruth has left and right side borders that, even accounting for the one obvious visible flaw of this card (being off-center), are substantially larger than the 'eek' high grade Ruth Goudey cards in the REA auction. Even the smaller right border on my card appears to be larger than most borders on their top-notch examples.

Brian (my Ruth is side-notch)



The wide border on the left really bothers me on this card

brianp-beme 11-27-2024 09:27 AM

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The wide border on the left really bothers me on this card

The centering is definitely not for the faint-hearted.

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Brian

Yoda 11-27-2024 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ALBB (Post 2477346)
The wide border on the left really bothers me on this card

I worry about the Babe; his groin is missing.

Tabe 11-27-2024 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2477397)
I worry about the Babe; his groin is missing.

I'm not sure why people keep referring to this card as a Babe Ruth when the card clearly says "Erman Uth".

JollyElm 11-27-2024 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2477397)
I worry about the Babe; his groin is missing.

We know he loved the ladies, so it was probably due to overuse. Therefore, (don't know the clinical term) groinal attrition.

brianp-beme 11-27-2024 04:11 PM

Some groupie probably stored Erman Uth's groin in a biscuit tin...perhaps there is still hope for its discovery.

Brian

Leon 11-30-2024 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2477378)
The centering is definitely not for the faint-hearted.

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Brian

The centering isn't that bad (for what is there). But that top right corner has some paper loss!! The top left corner doesn't bother me because there isn't anything to see.
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jingram058 11-30-2024 11:51 AM

I wonder...

Could you take a repro (there are certainly many of them, one of those "aged" ones), and carefully cut the missing parts (like a jigsaw puzzle),
and glue the parts together to make a "FrankenRuth"?

Brian would never go for that!

brianp-beme 11-30-2024 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jingram058 (Post 2477935)
I wonder...

Could you take a repro (there are certainly many of them, one of those "aged" ones), and carefully cut the missing parts (like a jigsaw puzzle),
and glue the parts together to make a "FrankenRuth"?

Brian would never go for that!


Not so fast...I had some scanning fun a while back creating some Thorpensteins. Enjoy!

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Brian


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