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bk400 09-01-2024 09:47 AM

Sadaharu Oh and Henry Aaron 1977 Calbee -- Hooked it
 
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So I hooked a white whale of mine. Bought it from one of the foremost Japanese card historians. Probably overpaid. But I'm ok with that in this case.

But I love the symmetry between Sadaharu Oh's story as someone who endured discrimination in Japan for a long time as his father was Chinese (Oh still apparently holds Taiwanese citizenship), with that of Henry Aaron, whose struggles are well known and well documented.

I'm not sure if there are other vintage-ish cards with icons from two countries. If so, I'd love to learn more about them as well.

D. Bergin 09-01-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2458127)
So I hooked a white whale of mine. Bought it from one of the foremost Japanese card historians. Probably overpaid. But I'm ok with that in this case.

But I love the symmetry between Sadaharu Oh's story as someone who endured discrimination in Japan for a long time as his father was Chinese (Oh still apparently holds Taiwanese citizenship), with that of Henry Aaron, whose struggles are well known and well documented.

I'm not sure if there are other vintage-ish cards with icons from two countries. If so, I'd love to learn more about them as well.


What a great card. :eek:

I didn't even know it existed before I saw this thread.

Peter_Spaeth 09-01-2024 10:54 AM

Sometimes you just have to man up if you really want something and it's hard to find. Nice acquisition.

wagnerj03 09-01-2024 11:19 AM

Congratulations! That is an awesome acquisition!

BabyRuth 09-01-2024 12:00 PM

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1932 Bulgaria Rurh and Schmeling - 2 icons

Jewish-collector 09-01-2024 02:59 PM

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Peter_Spaeth 09-01-2024 03:32 PM

Not sure if Lutz Long was an icon but there are cards of him and Jesse Owens.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/25654686030...Bk9SR66x__e1ZA

bk400 09-01-2024 07:01 PM

Thanks for the feedback, gents (apologies if I've misidentified an intrepid female on Net54). The Schmeling/Ruth is pretty neat, as is the Jesse Owens / Lutz Long. I'm not a Ruth collector per se, as that is an expensive rabbit hole that I wish to dodge for as long as possible!

As a general matter, I think Jesse Owens is highly undervalued relative to his athletic achievements and his historical significance. He met the moment in that 1936 Olympic performance like no one else -- while his treatment on his return to American soil is arguably one of the few, but great, stains on FDR's legacy.

todeen 09-01-2024 07:08 PM

I, too, didn't know this card existed. Thanks for showing it off.

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dbrown 09-03-2024 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2458127)
I'm not sure if there are other vintage-ish cards with icons from two countries. If so, I'd love to learn more about them as well.

I'd say the "1934" American and Japanese All Stars postcard qualifies. Quotes around 1934 because the postcard almost certainly dates from the 1950s or 1960s but PSA calls it 1934 so everyone wants a thousand dollars for it... the postcard shows used to have these for $25 all the time, because they are not very rare. [getting off soapbox now]

I realize I have no idea who the Japanese players are, but I'm assuming at least one of them must have been an icon, if they got to play against the Americans.

https://www.vintageball.com/files/Tokyo_1934_web.jpg

prestigecollectibles 09-03-2024 06:51 PM

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There are about 10 Japanese Hall of Famers in the photo.
SGC started to label the postcard as 1970s


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Originally Posted by dbrown (Post 2458633)
I'd say the "1934" American and Japanese All Stars postcard qualifies. Quotes around 1934 because the postcard almost certainly dates from the 1950s or 1960s but PSA calls it 1934 so everyone wants a thousand dollars for it... the postcard shows used to have these for $25 all the time, because they are not very rare. [getting off soapbox now]

I realize I have no idea who the Japanese players are, but I'm assuming at least one of them must have been an icon, if they got to play against the Americans.


bk400 09-03-2024 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles (Post 2458638)
There are about 10 Japanese Hall of Famers in the photo.
SGC started to label the postcard as 1970s

Thanks, guys. I think I'm going to have to do some looking around for this one.

Neal 09-04-2024 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2458152)
Sometimes you just have to man up if you really want something and it's hard to find. Nice acquisition.

Indeed

jjbond 09-06-2024 05:09 PM

Nice card! I’ve been looking for that for a while. And an amazing grade!!! The closest I got was this:
https://i.ibb.co/K7KkSR5/AA7-DF9-C1-...4-B7-C74-C.jpg

bk400 09-06-2024 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jjbond (Post 2459241)
Nice card! I’ve been looking for that for a while. And an amazing grade!!! The closest I got was this:
https://i.ibb.co/K7KkSR5/AA7-DF9-C1-...4-B7-C74-C.jpg

That's very cool. I've been looking for that NST for a long time myself.

tod41 09-07-2024 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2458127)
So I hooked a white whale of mine. Bought it from one of the foremost Japanese card historians. Probably overpaid. But I'm ok with that in this case.

But I love the symmetry between Sadaharu Oh's story as someone who endured discrimination in Japan for a long time as his father was Chinese (Oh still apparently holds Taiwanese citizenship), with that of Henry Aaron, whose struggles are well known and well documented.

I'm not sure if there are other vintage-ish cards with icons from two countries. If so, I'd love to learn more about them as well.

From the 1974 Mets Tour of Japan most likely,

Exhibitman 09-07-2024 11:20 AM

Both Japanese cards are terrific and are on my long term want list. As long as we're on Aarons from overseas, Korea 1982:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Aaron%201.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Aaron%202.jpg

bk400 09-08-2024 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2459366)
Both Japanese cards are terrific and are on my long term want list. As long as we're on Aarons from overseas, Korea 1982:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Aaron%201.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Aaron%202.jpg

Wow. I've been looking for that one as well for a long time. Doesn't seem to turn up anywhere.


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