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Mark17 08-29-2024 03:54 AM

Name the HOF pitcher who...
 
Never won more than 20 in a season.
Never saved a single game.
Hit well under .200 lifetime.
Never managed or held a front-office position.

jayshum 08-29-2024 09:19 AM

Mike Mussina

D. Bergin 08-29-2024 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2457460)
Mike Mussina

Nope, I remember quite clearly, Mussina won 20 games with the Yanks, and then promptly retired. :D

I think that had been hanging over his head for awhile and he was glad to go out with that as the topper to his career.

D. Bergin 08-29-2024 09:37 AM

Hmmm.......Don Sutton?

Peter_Spaeth 08-29-2024 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 2457467)
Nope, I remember quite clearly, Mussina won 20 games with the Yanks, and then promptly retired. :D

I think that had been hanging over his head for awhile and he was glad to go out with that as the topper to his career.

The question is never won MORE than 20.

D. Bergin 08-29-2024 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2457472)
The question is never won MORE than 20.


Oh Damn. Got me! :(

BobbyStrawberry 08-29-2024 10:12 AM

I'm thinking it's got to be someone more recent...Jack Morris?

Peter_Spaeth 08-29-2024 10:16 AM

It's Mussina, no?

jayshum 08-29-2024 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2457482)
It's Mussina, no?

That was my original guess, and I still think so.

G1911 08-29-2024 11:53 AM

Mussina definitely meets the criteria.

Jack Morris won over 20 games at least twice.

Jim Bunning never won over 20, was a bad hitter, and never held a front office or manager job (managed only in the minors). Don't know if he saved a game or not.

Peter_Spaeth 08-29-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2457511)
Mussina definitely meets the criteria.

Jack Morris won over 20 games at least twice.

Jim Bunning never won over 20, was a bad hitter, and never held a front office or manager job (managed only in the minors). Don't know if he saved a game or not.

If he managed in the minors, one can't say he never managed, I wouldn't think.

Speaking of Bunning, I read a story which went something like a guy was explaining to him why physics proved there was no such thing as a rising fastball, and Bunning's response was, "Physics don't know shit about pitching."

G1911 08-29-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2457516)
If he managed in the minors, one can't say he never managed, I wouldn't think.

The list sounded like major league criteria, not minor league benchmarks. I shall just leave this to everyone else.

Peter_Spaeth 08-29-2024 12:17 PM

I looked him up and lo and behold, 16 saves. 6 in a year when he had 35 starts. Men were men...

frankbmd 08-29-2024 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2457516)
If he managed in the minors, one can't say he never managed, I wouldn't think.

Speaking of Bunning, I read a story which went something like a guy was explaining to him why physics proved there was no such thing as a rising fastball, and Bunning's response was, "Physics don't know shit about pitching."

No wonder he ended up Congress.

Mark17 08-30-2024 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2457511)
Mussina definitely meets the criteria.

Jack Morris won over 20 games at least twice.

Jim Bunning never won over 20, was a bad hitter, and never held a front office or manager job (managed only in the minors). Don't know if he saved a game or not.

Actually, I was thinking Blyleven. He and Mussina.


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