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1952boyntoncollector 08-23-2024 08:56 AM

What player/manager from 1952 Topps had the last Topps card in later years?
 
Well we know Mantle last card was 1969

Yogi Berra had manager cards i believe in the 1980s as well as Billy Martin..

what about players

I wonder who else had the last Topps card as a player and who had the last as a manager.

Bill77 08-23-2024 09:47 AM

Dick Williams had his rookie card in the 1952 set and his last card as manager in the 1988 set.

Willie Mays last Topps card as a player was 1973.

Mark17 08-23-2024 11:34 AM

Minnie
 
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Cliff Bowman 08-23-2024 12:27 PM

ETA my bad, I think I get the question now.

packs 08-23-2024 01:35 PM

Hoyt Wilhelm's final card is his 1972 Topps.

KJA 08-24-2024 07:38 PM

Yogi's last manager card was 1985 Topps. However he last appeared on a card in 1987 Topps on the Astros team leaders card.

Billy Martin's last was 86 Topps

Red Schoendienst's last card was 1990 Topps Traded

Lucas00 08-24-2024 07:50 PM

For reference.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...64f9813c57.jpg

1952boyntoncollector 08-25-2024 06:07 PM

wow amazing to have a card in 1990 still working in baseball
 
From the 1952 set....

Beercan collector 08-25-2024 06:14 PM

Schoendienst earned a major league paycheck for 72 consecutive years

Peter_Spaeth 08-25-2024 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 2456627)
From the 1952 set....

Not THAT amazing. He was 67, there have certainly been older managers.

Lucas00 08-25-2024 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2456632)
Not THAT amazing. He was 67, there have certainly been older managers.

Older, maybe. But none in the majors for longer.

Peter_Spaeth 08-25-2024 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2456633)
Older, maybe. But none in the majors for longer.

Dusty Baker? Connie Mack? Baker's RC was 1971 and I don't know if they still make manager cards, but he could have had one 50 plus years later. Even if you don't count LaRussa's comeback, his RC was 1964 and he could have had a manager card in 2011, 47 years later. 58 years later if you count his recent comeback. Joe Torre RC 1962 was still managing in 2010 (48 years).

Lucas00 08-25-2024 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2456641)
Dusty Baker? Connie Mack? Baker's RC was 1971 and I don't know if they still make manager cards, but he could have had one 50 plus years later.

In professional baseball (counting a few years in the minors) Reds Tenure was 76 years with 74 of them being consecutive. (And 67 years just with the Cardinals). That's longer than Dusty Baker is old. Connie Mack I believe is 65 years total.

Peter_Spaeth 08-25-2024 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2456643)
In professional baseball (counting a few years in the minors) Reds Tenure was 76 years with 74 of them being consecutive. (And 67 years just with the Cardinals). That's longer than Dusty Baker is old. Connie Mack I believe is 65 years total.

And therefore what? You don't get a card for being an executive or consultant or whatever Red was in his 70s and 80s, we are talking about player - manager sequence. Jake said it was "amazing" Red had a card 38 years after 1952 Topps (42 years from his RC) and I'm putting that in context.

Lucas00 08-25-2024 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2456644)
And therefore what? You don't get a card for being an executive or consultant or whatever Red was in his 70s and 80s, we are talking about player - manager sequence. Jake said it was "amazing" Red had a card 38 years after 1952 Topps (42 years from his RC) and I'm putting that in context.

You quoted my post insinuating Red wasn't the longest. Didn't know we were still talking about cards. Reading it after the edit makes more sense now.

In the case of OFFICIAL topps releases (no weird off sets) I think from rookie to last official release I believe it's Frank Robinson.

1957 topps rookie to manager card in 2005 topps so 48 years.
I'm not sure about modern cards either, but a friend told me about that one of Frank. Also, Not sure about Tony but that could be if he has a recent release. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a9e354d1e0.jpg

Peter_Spaeth 08-25-2024 07:33 PM

LaRussa would be longer if he had a 2022 card with the White Sox, much longer. 1964 to 2022 is 58 years. But I dunno if they made one, guess I can look it up.

Bill77 08-25-2024 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2456647)
You quoted my post insinuating Red wasn't the longest. Didn't know we were still talking about cards. Reading it after the edit makes more sense now.

In the case of OFFICIAL topps releases (no weird off sets) I think from rookie to last official release I believe it's Frank Robinson.

1957 topps rookie to manager card in 2005 topps so 48 years.
I'm not sure about modern cards either, but a friend told me about that one of Frank. Also, Not sure about Tony but that could be if he has a recent release. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a9e354d1e0.jpg

Just to add a little more to Frank's legend here is his 2006 Topps manager card.

KJA 08-26-2024 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2456648)
LaRussa would be longer if he had a 2022 card with the White Sox, much longer. 1964 to 2022 is 58 years. But I dunno if they made one, guess I can look it up.

Looks like he had a 2022 card in Chrome Platinum Anniversary with the White Sox.

Aquarian Sports Cards 08-27-2024 01:37 PM

Ralph Houk's rookie card was 1952 Topps. His last card was 1985 Topps I believe, I think that's actually on topic, though I'm not sure after reading a lot of the other posts.

1952boyntoncollector 08-29-2024 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2456632)
Not THAT amazing. He was 67, there have certainly been older managers.

Its amazing given the 1952 topps context, very few others from that 1952 are close to Red's 1990, thats the amazing part.. as for the manager part.

If was a player of course more amazing..but thats why i wondered for each manager and player what their last year was in a topps issue after the 1952 set..

Republicaninmass 08-29-2024 05:22 AM

1952 dick Williams was also RC, but I dont know if he had a card past 1987 topps

Peter_Spaeth 08-29-2024 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KJA (Post 2456906)
Looks like he had a 2022 card in Chrome Platinum Anniversary with the White Sox.

Close enough. 58 years from first to last card, wow.

Casey Stengel is pretty close. 1910 T210 to 1965 Topps.

Which means you can get from 1910 to 2022 in just two people, although not continuous of course.

judsonhamlin 08-29-2024 07:49 PM

You can get from Old Judge to 2024 Topps in 3 - Connie Mack 1887 OJ to 1940 Play Ball then Ted Williams through to 1971/2 Topps to Dusty Baker who has a card in 2024 Heritage. Not continuous either, but still

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2457476)
Close enough. 58 years from first to last card, wow.

Casey Stengel is pretty close. 1910 T210 to 1965 Topps.

Which means you can get from 1910 to 2022 in just two people, although not continuous of course.


Peter_Spaeth 08-29-2024 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by judsonhamlin (Post 2457624)
You can get from Old Judge to 2024 Topps in 3 - Connie Mack 1887 OJ to 1940 Play Ball then Ted Williams through to 1971/2 Topps to Dusty Baker who has a card in 2024 Heritage. Not continuous either, but still

amazing

1952boyntoncollector 08-31-2024 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by judsonhamlin (Post 2457624)
You can get from Old Judge to 2024 Topps in 3 - Connie Mack 1887 OJ to 1940 Play Ball then Ted Williams through to 1971/2 Topps to Dusty Baker who has a card in 2024 Heritage. Not continuous either, but still

i would contend that it cant just be any card or career award,,,the person has to be an active manager or player for the card..

judsonhamlin 08-31-2024 06:11 PM

Yup. And those three players all qualify on those conditions. Not continuous as I said, but still cool.

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 2458004)
i would contend that it cant just be any card or career award,,,the person has to be an active manager or player for the card..



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