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hcv123 07-19-2024 10:33 AM

1 of a kind POP 1 Highest graded PSA 9 Stahl Meyer Franks card
 
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This is a paid ad.

This card is being offered for the 1st time in almost 40 years and the very first time since being graded!

Www.1953StahlMeyerMickeyMantle.com

Words can't describe how excited I am to be able to bring to market what I believe is arguably the most significant post war baseball card in existence! See the website for more details. The Stahl Meyer cards were distributed in packages of hot dogs! The offered example (along with a scant few others) was saved from the greasy demise by a printing company employee.

Asking price is $2.657 million

To price the card I started with the sale of a highest graded PSA 8, 1954 example that sold for $220K and a 1953 PSA 7 that sold for $68,125. I then prepared a spread sheet looking at sales of Mickey Mantles Topps and Bowman cards (1951-1969) that sell a bit more regularly in grades of PSA 7 and PSA 9. The price multiple from PSA 7's-9's ranged from a low of 9X (1965) to a high of 162X (1969 white letter). All but 1 of the Topps and Bowman cards have multiple examples in PSA 9 grade and all but 4 of them have PSA 10's graded higher. With the populations considered, I think it is quite reasonable to suggest that the Stahl Meyer being a POP 1 highest graded should trade at the highest (or higher) multiple as any of the Topps or Bowmans. I instead have priced the card at a very conservative 39X multiple (the average multiple of all the Topps and Bowmans) of the actual Stahl Meyer PSA 7 sale. $2.657 million.

The Stahl Meyers are highly desireable high demand cards that don't exist in the kind of quantities to satisfy the number of Collectors that want one. In fact there are a total of just 95 SGC and PSA graded examples! When you look at 64 of them that are graded 1's or A's, you start to grasp how special this example is!

The card will be on display at my booth 1042 at national in Cleveland next week . The card will be otherwise available to be viewed by qualified buyers by private appointment.

Please contact me with any further questions at:

Hcv123@att.net
(516) 991-5535

Howard Chasser

JimC 07-19-2024 05:28 PM

Incredible card, Howard. Best of luck with it!

bxb 07-20-2024 06:45 AM

I never realized that the image on this card, which is the same one used on the 1954 Dan-Dee, was from a photo taken from his rookie season in 1951 by Bob Olen, the Yankees photographer.

The black and white photos then were hand colored to create the cards.

So you might say it's his first true rookie photo on a baseball card.

(Info above from Rich Mueller, SCD 7/14/24.)

Schlesinj 07-20-2024 07:09 AM

An original version of that photo just sold on Heritage in April.

Good luck, Howard.

ValKehl 07-20-2024 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bxb (Post 2449133)
I never realized that the image on this card, which is the same one used on the 1954 Dan-Dee, was from a photo taken from his rookie season in 1951 by Bob Olen, the Yankees photographer.

It is also the same image used on Mantle's 1953-54 Briggs Meat card, which is much scarcer than the Stahl Meyer and Dan-Dee cards.

hcv123 07-21-2024 02:25 PM

Thanks for the good wishes all.
 
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Originally Posted by ValKehl (Post 2449233)
It is also the same image used on Mantle's 1953-54 Briggs Meat card, which is much scarcer than the Stahl Meyer and Dan-Dee cards.

While the Briggs in an absolute sense is scarcer, The condition this Stahl Meyer is in blows away the Briggs.

BRoberts 07-21-2024 06:36 PM

This card won't last long at that price. Wish I had the money.

ClementeFanOh 07-21-2024 06:47 PM

Mickey
 
Great card, Howard. Good luck with the sale!

Trent King

Casey2296 07-21-2024 06:49 PM

Best wishes to you and the consignor on a successful sale Howard.

commishbob 07-21-2024 09:20 PM

Wow, the stuff you see here on N54 can be mindblowing. That's one awesome card!

ValKehl 07-21-2024 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2449390)
While the Briggs in an absolute sense is scarcer, The condition this Stahl Meyer is in blows away the Briggs.

Ya think?!! :D
Good luck with the sale,
Val

MikeGarcia 07-28-2024 11:02 AM

Viewed in person ?
 
''

..Has anyone at The National been lucky enough to have seen this Black Swan Mantle ?

..One of a kind Mantles don't pop up very often .

ClementeFanOh 07-28-2024 11:12 AM

Mickey
 
MikeG- Yessir, I saw it live. Beautiful card! Trent King

Tomi 07-28-2024 11:54 AM

Anyone hear about any offers for it or a possible sale?

oldjudge 07-28-2024 12:45 PM

“Words can't describe how excited I am to be able to bring to market what I believe is arguably the most significant post war baseball card in existence! See the website for more details. The Stahl Meyer cards were distributed in packages of hot dogs! The offered example (along with a scant few others) was saved from the greasy demise by a printing company employee.

Asking price is $2.657 million”

I’d imagine you are. What’s the most that any Stahl Meyer card has ever sold for?

t206fanatic 07-28-2024 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2450690)
“Words can't describe how excited I am to be able to bring to market what I believe is arguably the most significant post war baseball card in existence! See the website for more details. The Stahl Meyer cards were distributed in packages of hot dogs! The offered example (along with a scant few others) was saved from the greasy demise by a printing company employee.

Asking price is $2.657 million”

I’d imagine you are. What’s the most that any Stahl Meyer card has ever sold for?

think it was this '54 psa 8 at Heritage a few years ago

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...50052-02262022

jimq16415 07-28-2024 01:52 PM

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Beautiful card!

Lorewalker 07-28-2024 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jimq16415 (Post 2450708)
Beautiful card!

Are you suggesting the images are of the top edge of the same card before and after grading?

CardPadre 07-28-2024 02:53 PM

That 8 is a newer slab than the 9 is in. I think that was just someone pointing out the previous record sale for the issue, not any claim it was the same card.

Lorewalker 07-28-2024 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CardPadre (Post 2450720)
That 8 is a newer slab than the 9 is in. I think that was just someone pointing out the previous record sale for the issue, not any claim it was the same card.

Ah did not realize the comparison was the back of the 54 SM 8 and the back of the 53 SM 9. Appreciate the explanation.

The 54 and 55 SMs came with and without tabs from those I have seen.

BigfootIsReal 07-28-2024 03:11 PM

What region(s) was this distributed?

oldjudge 07-28-2024 03:26 PM

Be careful bringing the card home. While I'm sure the card is worth everything you are asking and more, the insurance company might have a slightly different view on the card's value.

BigfootIsReal 07-28-2024 03:37 PM

If I bought this, I'd be cracking out and putting it through its intended use, which it never went through. Lost all the charm the way it is.

robertsmithnocure 07-28-2024 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2450690)
”Asking price is $2.657 million”

I’d imagine you are. What’s the most that any Stahl Meyer card has ever sold for?

This 1954 PSA 9 Mays sold for $93K less than a year ago.

It will be interesting to see if the Mantle will bring nearly 30X as much as the Mays.

https://robertedwardauctions.com/arc...highest-graded

Lucas00 07-28-2024 03:59 PM

I'd be impressed if it went over $250,000 in an auction based on the mays sale, let alone over 2.5 million.

No shade at Howard or Brian I hope they get that asking price!

BRoberts 07-30-2024 02:44 PM

Bump to see if anyone on the board bought this in Cleveland.

raulus 07-30-2024 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal (Post 2450741)
If I bought this, I'd be cracking out and putting it through its intended use, which it never went through. Lost all the charm the way it is.

That would be a pretty baller move with $2.5M!

Stonepony 07-30-2024 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by t206fanatic (Post 2450695)
think it was this '54 psa 8 at Heritage a few years ago

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...50052-02262022

It has aways been my impression, from speaking with Brian P., that the 1954 populations are significantly lower than the 1953 issue. PSA pop supports this with #69 1953 Mantles having been graded versus #23 1954 . I'm not sure how this may play in to the comparison with the PSA 8 1954 sale...likely little.
I don't know the value but this is surely an outstanding and unique gem of a card!!

theshowandme 07-30-2024 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonepony (Post 2451212)
I don't know the value but this is surely an outstanding and unique gem of a card!!

It will look great in your collection!

hcv123 07-30-2024 06:40 PM

Update
 
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Originally Posted by MikeGarcia (Post 2450670)
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..Has anyone at The National been lucky enough to have seen this Black Swan Mantle ?

..One of a kind Mantles don't pop up very often .

The card had many visitors and people who appreciated seeing it in person.

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Originally Posted by Tomi (Post 2450678)
Anyone hear about any offers for it or a possible sale?

As of Today the card is still available for sale. There are a couple of ongoing dialogues.

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Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal (Post 2450728)
What region(s) was this distributed?

The Stahl Meyers were only distributed in the New York region

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2450734)
Be careful bringing the card home. While I'm sure the card is worth everything you are asking and more, the insurance company might have a slightly different view on the card's value.

Thank you Jay. Great care was taken with security going to, at, and coming home from the show. I am happy to report the card is safe and secure.


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Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2450747)
I'd be impressed if it went over $250,000 in an auction based on the mays sale, let alone over 2.5 million.

No shade at Howard or Brian I hope they get that asking price!


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Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 2450742)
This 1954 PSA 9 Mays sold for $93K less than a year ago.

It will be interesting to see if the Mantle will bring nearly 30X as much as the Mays.

https://robertedwardauctions.com/arc...highest-graded

Cards like this sometimes fall through the cracks in auctions. The Mays has since been privately placed for significantly more than the $93K auction sale and is not for sale.

That said if you think about what a 52 Mays in a PSA 9 (or 10) might sell for Vs. a 52 Mantle in a PSA 9 (or 10) today, I think you'll quickly realize that comparing prices of Mantle and Mays is comparing apples and oranges.

Lorewalker 10-28-2024 08:43 PM

Sure we would have heard but wondering if this card sold? Not asking for a friend.


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