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BeanTown 02-26-2024 11:49 AM

19th Century Cabinets dating (Utica)
 
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I’ve posted one of these before and forgot what was said about them. Any history and dating would be awesome. One came from Hunt, one from an EBay scrap book and the other I’m not sure about.

bgar3 02-26-2024 05:06 PM

Utica,
 
The Utica Cdv is pictured in Mark Rucker’s book, Base Ball Cartes and was auctioned in a sale of some of his stuff in 1996, which notes it was also used in the Ken Burns film. He dated it 1878, and said it was a member of the International Association and many members played in the NL. Can’t help with names but this should give a start.
I sent you a pm for more info on the other 2.
The top one is definitely post 1879, I guess mid 1880’s.or so. Might know more if I can find the photographers.

BeanTown 02-26-2024 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bgar3 (Post 2415625)
The Utica Cdv is pictured in Mark Rucker’s book, Base Ball Cartes and was auctioned in a sale of some of his stuff in 1996, which notes it was also used in the Ken Burns film. He dated it 1878, and said it was a member of the International Association and many members played in the NL. Can’t help with names but this should give a start.
I sent you a pm for more info on the other 2.
The top one is definitely post 1879, I guess mid 1880’s.or so. Might know more if I can find the photographers.

Thanks, and I added the back scans which shows what you said.

bgar3 02-26-2024 06:32 PM

Could not find anything great on the photographer Kopke, but I would guess mid 1880’s also. I think the darker mount and size is indicative of that time period or later. Also, it is not really clear but I think I see a mask on the knee of one of the players, making this likely post 1879 and probably a little later.

bgar3 02-26-2024 07:00 PM

For more on Utica, see 1878 Utica pent ups, international league on threads of the game, where your photo is used with a number of identifications. There are other sites with info, even some stats for players and you will confirm several did play in the NL.

BeanTown 02-28-2024 11:28 AM

Thank you for the information which helps a lot. Been slowly selling off some 19th century items as it doesn’t fit my collecting tastes now. REA will be the benefactors of this group along with some other nice items which I do know about.

GaryPassamonte 02-28-2024 03:42 PM

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Excellent research, Bruce. I used to have this copy.

bgar3 02-29-2024 05:37 AM

Gary, is there a Cdv you did not once have?😁
Thanks.

GaryPassamonte 02-29-2024 10:23 AM

I had about 80-85 baseball cdvs at one time. I frequently see old friends pop up.

Leon 03-03-2024 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bgar3 (Post 2416100)
Gary, is there a Cdv you did not once have?��
Thanks.

Gary (hi Gary) has had each one at least once :)

(nice cards, Jay Cee)

I don't have too many cdv's
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https://luckeycards.com/cdv1868c.jpg

GaryPassamonte 03-04-2024 04:04 AM

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I had that one, too.:)


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