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teza11 12-20-2023 06:38 PM

N29 Original or Reprint?
 
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Over the past week a seller on eBay sold two N29's (Fogarty & Ryan) that I believe are modern day reprints. Two immediate red flags for me; 1) the cardstock is not white, and 2) the backside print is black ink. I contacted the seller and advised of such. He wanted to debate the situation and let the listings run. The listings sold for $165 and $260 respectively. Am I missing something or are buyers that uninformed?

Jeff

judsonhamlin 12-20-2023 06:42 PM

100% fake. Fuzzy image and tan stock.

incugator 12-20-2023 06:47 PM

I was the buyer
 
I was the buyer. The moment they arrived I could smell a counterfeit. Feel free to message the seller. He clearly knew and is trying to pull wool. I filed within 3 days with ebay, but the truth is that this guy needs to be kicked off of ebay.

incugator 12-20-2023 06:51 PM

Images of Fake and a Real n29
 
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I have the Fogarty up against a Real N29. It is clear the the size, font color and paper stock is off. It even fluoresces under black light (But has had some kind of treatment) The seller is being really reluctant to grant a refund. I appreciate it for anybody who lets him know that this is a crime.

teza11 12-20-2023 06:59 PM

Sorry you got burned. He knew what he was doing. I don't see any way around filing a counterfeit claim through eBay. Good luck!

Jeff

incugator 12-20-2023 07:23 PM

For sure
 
I have the mailing address and hopefully some members on here can let him have it.

vthobby 12-20-2023 07:56 PM

......
 
Best you fight your own battle.

An address reveal really does not help you trying to get your money back.

Good luck.

Ebay favors the buyer usually so you should not have a problem.

G1911 12-20-2023 08:08 PM

I don't get how fakes that aren't even the right colors get bid up to $260.

incugator 12-20-2023 08:21 PM

Wrong color
 
I clearly didn’t see that this card was a fake through the pictures which was a pretty obvious miss I hindsight. Nonetheless, this guy is a pure scammer

jayshum 12-20-2023 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2398675)
I don't get how fakes that aren't even the right colors get bid up to $260.

If the card sold for $260, how did it not go through the authentication process?

incugator 12-20-2023 08:26 PM

Card sold for $260
 
I wonder if the $260 sale will go through the authentication process.

jayshum 12-20-2023 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by incugator (Post 2398688)
I wonder if the $260 sale will go through the authentication process.

That was my question in the previous post. If you already received it then apparently it didn't so I'm wondering why if it sold for $260. I know there are some reasons for the process to be skipped, but I don't know if this listing met any of them.

G1911 12-20-2023 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2398687)
If the card sold for $260, how did it not go through the authentication process?

It was listed in the tobacco cards section - so no program.

incugator 12-20-2023 09:50 PM

Had a plan
 
This seller clearly had a plan to circumvent the authentication process.

rjackson44 12-21-2023 06:16 AM

Sorry this happened

EddieP 12-21-2023 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2398700)
It was listed in the tobacco cards section - so no program.

Just to be clear he sold it under Tobbaciana not under Trading Cards.If it were listed under Trading Cards it would have gone throught the process.

Dean is selling a Buck Ewing on eBay right now that has the Guarantee:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40444586486...Bk9SR6Th58mRYw

G1911 12-21-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by EddieP (Post 2398749)
Just to be clear he sold it under Tobbaciana not under Trading Cards.If it were listed under Trading Cards it would have gone throught the process.

Dean is selling a Buck Ewing on eBay right now that has the Guarantee:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40444586486...Bk9SR6Th58mRYw

I said "Tobacco Cards"; the exact precise name and a correct statement. Collectibles > Tobacciana > Tobacco Cards. Why would that mean "trading cards", a completely different category?

EddieP 12-21-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2398821)
I said "Tobacco Cards"; the exact precise name and a correct statement. Collectibles > Tobacciana > Tobacco Cards. Why would that mean "trading cards", a completely different category?


Because if it’s in Collectibles> SPORTS TRADING CARDS > Trading CARD SINGLES the algorithm will send it to Authenticity Guarantee. Listing under TOBACCIANA will throw the algorithm off and thus NOT QUALIFY for AG. Capeesh?

incugator 12-21-2023 11:54 AM

Seller Caved
 
Seller must have realized that the scam wasn’t going to work. He caved this morning. I will be filming me mailing and returning the cards. Pain in the butt but it’s part of life in the world we live in.


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