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Smanzari 11-18-2023 04:33 PM

Longshot -- Help with Post Card ID (Cubs Relevant / Billy Goat Inn)
 
Hey guys-

Lots of questions today, ha, one more item I picked up - Super cool and Cubs Relevant but can't find a lick of information on the internet via reverse image search, etc. By some longshot chance, does anyone know this postcard/potential date? Thanks for the look / potential help (sorry if this is the wrong section for this one - wasn't quite sure)!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/elGF6E.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/jMxM0n.jpg

cubman1941 11-19-2023 04:58 AM

Can't answer your question but it is not really Cubs (billy goat) related -
MORE ABOUT BILLY GOAT TAVERN

The original Billy Goat Tavern location was “born” in 1934 when Greek immigrant, William “Billy Goat” Sianis, purchased the Lincoln Tavern. Billy Goat bought the tavern for $205, with a check that bounced but was later repaid with sales from the first weekend. The tavern was located across from the Chicago Stadium (now United Center) and attracted mainly sports fans. Sianis became known as “Billy Goat,” when a goat fell off a passing truck and wandered inside. Sianis adopted the goat, grew a goatee, acquired the nickname “Billy Goat,” and changed the name of the bar to the Billy Goat Tavern.

Smanzari 11-19-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cubman1941 (Post 2389928)
Can't answer your question but it is not really Cubs (billy goat) related -
MORE ABOUT BILLY GOAT TAVERN

The original Billy Goat Tavern location was “born” in 1934 when Greek immigrant, William “Billy Goat” Sianis, purchased the Lincoln Tavern. Billy Goat bought the tavern for $205, with a check that bounced but was later repaid with sales from the first weekend. The tavern was located across from the Chicago Stadium (now United Center) and attracted mainly sports fans. Sianis became known as “Billy Goat,” when a goat fell off a passing truck and wandered inside. Sianis adopted the goat, grew a goatee, acquired the nickname “Billy Goat,” and changed the name of the bar to the Billy Goat Tavern.

Are you sure? I could be wrong but I'm like 99.9998% certain that its where the "curse" originated; and I think this could be from BEFORE he "cursed" them, given what was with it (1945 WS Snapshots, when the curse happened) but not completely sure https://www.billygoattavern.com/legend/curse/

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October 6th, a sad day in Cubs history. The Cubs entered game four of the World Series leading the Detroit Tigers 2 games to 1, and needing to win only two of the next four games played at Wrigley Field. A local Greek, William “Billy Goat” Sianis, owner of the Billy Goat Tavern and a Cubs fan, bought two tickets to Game four. Hoping to bring his team good luck he took his pet goat, Murphy, with him to the game. At the entrance to the park, the Andy Fran ushers stopped Billy Goat from entering saying that no animals are allowed in the park. Billy Goat, frustrated, appealed to the owner of the Cubs, P.K. Wrigley. Wrigley replied, “Let Billy in, but not the goat.” Billy Goat asked, “Why not the goat?” Wrigley answered, “Because the goat stinks.” According to legend, the goat and Billy were upset, so then Billy threw up his arms and exclaimed, “The Cubs ain’t gonna win no more. The Cubs will never win a World Series so long as the goat is not allowed in Wrigley Field.” The Cubs were officially cursed. Subsequently, the Cubs lost game four, and the remaining series getting swept at home and from the World Series. Billy Goat promptly sent a telegram to P.K. Wrigley, stating, “Who stinks now?” For the next twenty years, throughout the remainder of Billy Goat’s life the Cubs would finish each season at 5th place or lower, establishing a pattern that would reverse the Cubs luck and term the team “The Lovable Losers.”

cubman1941 11-19-2023 09:17 AM

Thanks - I guess i didn't follow through on this - appreciate the correction.

Smanzari 11-19-2023 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cubman1941 (Post 2389967)
Thanks - I guess i didn't follow through on this - appreciate the correction.

No worries, some of the lore of these teams can be a little strange and odd ball

bigfanNY 11-20-2023 05:04 PM

Left out key part... Saturday Night live used characters from the tavern in a recurring skit. Cheesburger...Cheesburger... no fries Chips... etc.. I only ate thre once and had a great time and a decent Cheesburger. The walls were full of Newspaper accounts of the goat getting barred.. The later Appologie the Goat attending games.... the Hope... this was 1998... 18 Years Later...


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