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Smanzari 10-08-2023 09:32 AM

Valuing a Ticket Stub?
 
Purchased a Ticket Stub yesterday from a friend as he told me it was a Joe D 5/5 and Gehrig 3/4 game from the 30's; Being a Yanks fan, I thought that was super cool (and have been really kind of getting into stubs lately despite knowing the absolute minimum about them).

Further research after I purchased shows that it is in fact a stub from Joe D's first cycle (plus an extra homer -- 7/9/37) - how do I value something like this when I send into PSA/BGS for authentication/encapsulation? I can find some home run stubs or stubs from his streak, do you just get an idea from there or just submit and cross your fingers they don't upgrade it? Or is there some sort of guide to valuing these things? (sorry for my ignorance, not tons of comps from my typical sources for these!)

Shoeless Moe 10-08-2023 09:45 AM

Just my guess....

but Gehrig HR tickets are generally in the 250-350 range....DiMaggio HRs less.

However, the DiMaggio cycle is unique for sure.

My guess would be 375-500, assuming condition is decent.

Snapolit1 10-08-2023 10:38 AM

Very difficult to value.
And don’t look at eBay for much guidance. Some absolutely insane asks. Some
random Ruth HR and Gehrig 2 RBI stub and someone will be asking $8,000 for a stub that wouldn’t get $800 at a reputable AH.

rand1com 10-08-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Smanzari (Post 2379128)
Purchased a Ticket Stub yesterday from a friend as he told me it was a Joe D 5/5 and Gehrig 3/4 game from the 30's; Being a Yanks fan, I thought that was super cool (and have been really kind of getting into stubs lately despite knowing the absolute minimum about them).

Further research after I purchased shows that it is in fact a stub from Joe D's first cycle (plus an extra homer -- 7/9/37) - how do I value something like this when I send into PSA/BGS for authentication/encapsulation? I can find some home run stubs or stubs from his streak, do you just get an idea from there or just submit and cross your fingers they don't upgrade it? Or is there some sort of guide to valuing these things? (sorry for my ignorance, not tons of comps from my typical sources for these!)

I would value it at the lowest amount of $499 or less for purposes of fees.

If it grades high, they may well upcharge you but only if they think it is worth more than you paid the fee for.

I had a ticket that I valued at less than $2499 and paid the $150 fee to have it graded . They graded it the highest one and up charged to $600 or 4 times the fee.

However, the ticket is likely worth 4 times the original estimated value so I was OK with it.

Smanzari 10-08-2023 11:20 AM

Thanks guys! That’s kind of where I was leaning, as that’s the route I go with cards- I just wasn’t 100% sure as I’m not the most well-versed in that market!

jethrod3 10-09-2023 12:09 AM

I don't think you mentioned the condition as you perceive it. I agree that if it's a one-of-a-kind ticket (as far as you know) it might be difficult to price (it will bring whatever someone is willing to pay for it at auction, LOL!!). But if it's in pretty bad condition, I'd recommend sending it to third-party graders that don't have a registry and aren't as prone to upcharge for simply authenticating. Then at least you will have your one-of-a-kind ticket slabbed for whatever you decide to do!

Smanzari 10-09-2023 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jethrod3 (Post 2379297)
I don't think you mentioned the condition as you perceive it. I agree that if it's a one-of-a-kind ticket (as far as you know) it might be difficult to price (it will bring whatever someone is willing to pay for it at auction, LOL!!). But if it's in pretty bad condition, I'd recommend sending it to third-party graders that don't have a registry and aren't as prone to upcharge for simply authenticating. Then at least you will have your one-of-a-kind ticket slabbed for whatever you decide to do!

Yea, I am not entirely sure of how to grade these - but it looks nice enough to grade IMO

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/56YS2I.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/a9mvlr.jpg

jethrod3 10-09-2023 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Smanzari (Post 2379315)
Yea, I am not entirely sure of how to grade these - but it looks nice enough to grade IMO

Based on my own experience with tickets and third-party graders, I'd say that given the staining, corner wear and uneven tear it's probably going to be around a 4. Worth grading and definitely indicate how you want them to label the slab about the unique accomplishment.

rand1com 10-10-2023 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Smanzari (Post 2379315)
Yea, I am not entirely sure of how to grade these - but it looks nice enough to grade IMO

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/56YS2I.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/a9mvlr.jpg

Probably 2/3 or so with PSA. Maybe higher with Beckett as they are not as critical.

DW03 10-15-2023 07:05 PM

If I saw this on ebay I'd expect 1500

ooo-ribay 10-15-2023 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Smanzari (Post 2379128)
how do I value something like this when I send into PSA/BGS for authentication/encapsulation?

Don’t send it to the opinion sellers. Put it in a little card holder and enjoy it. :cool:

Smanzari 10-15-2023 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2380927)
Don’t send it to the opinion sellers. Put it in a little card holder and enjoy it. :cool:

I just want it in a cool holder, don't even care about the grade but would be cool to have encapsulated - actually will more than likely just go BGS, assuming they'll put the milestone on the slab. I don't keep much that I buy, but I actually plan on hanging onto this for a while (getting into stubs - they're neat, semi-unique/rarer than cards, and are a cool piece of history [even boring, non-milestone games])

ooo-ribay 10-15-2023 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Smanzari (Post 2380929)
I just want it in a cool holder, don't even care about the grade but would be cool to have encapsulated

I hate the “cool holder.” But, to each, their own.

icollectDCsports 10-16-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2380933)
I hate the “cool holder.” But, to each, their own.

I strongly agree. I understand that, for eventual resale, it can sometimes (but certainly not always) make financial sense to pay to get a vintage item slabbed, but I never think a beautiful item from that era looks good with a modern label from a third party authenticator/grader. I think that definitely detracts from the coolness and eye appeal of the item itself. To protect a vintage ticket, I much prefer placing it yourself in a simple, clear holder — with a label from a label printer if desired.

Shoeless Moe 11-28-2023 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DW03 (Post 2380922)
If I saw this on ebay I'd expect 1500

Well you would be dead wrong.

Just sold on Ebay for $263


https://www.ebay.com/itm/27617700904...p2471758.m4703

jethrod3 11-28-2023 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2392585)
Well you would be dead wrong.
Just sold on Ebay for $263
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27617700904...p2471758.m4703

Well, he didn't hang on to it too long for one reason or another, which is fine of course. Sold for lower than I expected, so probably good it wasn't sent out for grading.

Smanzari 11-30-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jethrod3 (Post 2392647)
Well, he didn't hang on to it too long for one reason or another, which is fine of course. Sold for lower than I expected, so probably good it wasn't sent out for grading.

I actually held for a LONG TIME considering most things I get, but I do more buying/selling than accumulating (unless its a GA/SA comic book)

If I started the auction when I asked the initial question, I would have been disappointed but after having it up on eBay and fielding the offers I received, I'm pleased - ended up like $10 higher than anticipated ($250 was the best offer I received, in addition to a good bit under $100). Was a cool piece for sure, and I'm sure the new owner will make a profit when they sell (and I did pretty well considering my buy-in)


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