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tedzan 09-10-2023 06:40 PM

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) cards. Let's have some fun showing & talking about them
 
During the printing of the 350-only Series of the T206 set, American Lithographic included a stylistically framed American Beauty 350 Tobacco advertisement
on the backs of 190 subjects in this Series.

And approx. 23 subjects in the 350-only Series were not printed with the ABF back. Why is this so ? Perhaps, these 23 guys retired (or were traded) during the
period of the 350-only Series press runs (Spring / Summer 1910).

Furthermore, the majority of these AB 350 cards are narrower than the standard T206's, such as Gabby Street shown here. On the other hand, this Davy Jones
card (ABF back) is the standard T206 width. I'm not certain that we have arrived at a logical reason for this difference.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...etPortrait.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...jones50xab.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...vyJones25x.jpg


TED Z

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GeoPoto 09-11-2023 03:27 AM

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I have these two -- what's left of a well-loved Burns and a (slightly) better Tannehill:

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1694424058
https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1694424062
https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1694424093
https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1694424098

Marslife 09-11-2023 05:39 AM

Bugs
 
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Pat R 09-11-2023 06:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2371827)
During the printing of the 350-only Series of the T206 set, American Lithographic included a stylistically framed American Beauty 350 Tobacco advertisement
on the backs of 190 subjects in this Series.

And approx. 23 subjects in the 350-only Series were not printed with the ABF back. Why is this so ? Perhaps, these 23 guys retired (or were traded) during the
period of the 350-only Series press runs (Spring / Summer 1910).

Furthermore, the majority of these AB 350 cards are narrower than the standard T206's, such as Gabby Street shown here. On the other hand, this Davy Jones
card (ABF back) is the standard T206 width. I'm not certain that we have arrived at a logical reason for this difference.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...etPortrait.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...jones50xab.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...vyJones25x.jpg


TED Z

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Ted, your Davy Jones has a blue print mark in the upper left that's also found on a few Piedmonts and a SC350/25.

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BuzzD 09-11-2023 06:50 AM

AB 350 frame
 
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I have one example

nineunder71 09-11-2023 06:57 AM

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Great Cards All

Here’s a toughie

I’ve always wondered what stamp they were trying to scratch off, and why

Cheers All

MVSNYC 09-11-2023 07:48 AM

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Here's a pretty rare one (thanks CB!)...

ValKehl 09-11-2023 08:44 AM

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My AB w/frame type card:

Huck 09-11-2023 08:45 AM

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My lone example.

mybuddyinc 09-11-2023 11:20 AM

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.............. I like my ABs well centered .................. :p:p:p:p

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Fun, fun, Scott :rolleyes:

FrankWakefield 09-11-2023 11:34 AM

So... thoughts on whether frame or no frame was first, or if they were simultaneously released...

53toppscollector 09-11-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankWakefield (Post 2372019)
So... thoughts on whether frame or no frame was first, or if they were simultaneously released...

I'd vote that Frame was first.

If I remember right from my research, the cards that have a 350 With Frame, none of those cards have 460 series backs.

For the subjects with a 350 No Frame, all of them (except Nichols Batting) have Cycle 460 backs as well as Piedmont 460/42 backs.

t206fanatic 09-11-2023 01:38 PM

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my favorite back in the t206 universe

tedzan 09-11-2023 06:30 PM

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) cards. Let's have some fun showing & talking about them
 
Great picture of a young Eddie Collins......

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...eCollinsSC.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...dCollins25.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...CollinsSCb.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...Collins50b.jpg



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tedzan 09-12-2023 05:32 PM

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) cards. Let's have some fun showing & talking about them
 
Brothers Tannehill

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https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...edHINDUx50.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...HINDUx25bk.jpg


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DeanH3 09-12-2023 06:33 PM

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Part of my Matty back run.

FrankWakefield 09-12-2023 08:21 PM

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Here are two, Huggins and Strang. I would have guessed I had half a dozen, I must have sold a few, or misplaced them.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1694571620

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1694571678

tedzan 09-13-2023 05:10 PM

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) cards. Let's have some fun showing & talking about them
 
Very nice Matty, Dean


Although my AB 350 Matty is quite off-center, I am pleased with it.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...50mattysgc.jpg



TED Z

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Rhotchkiss 09-13-2023 05:53 PM

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My favorite American Beauty is the one by this band, now in a frame on my wall; Lyrics and sheet music to which is one of the many Dead songs contained in the autographed song book

53toppscollector 09-13-2023 05:56 PM

one of the best albums ever created. a true masterpiece. awesome display piece you've got there

DeanH3 09-13-2023 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2372665)
Very nice Matty, Dean


Although my AB 350 Matty is quite off-center, I am pleased with it.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...50mattysgc.jpg



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Thank you Ted. Any AB Matty is a beaut,

Pat R 09-13-2023 10:24 PM

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That Mathewson has Run the Gamut of graders. The first time it sold it was in a Beckett holder then it was crossed over to the SGC holder and the last two times it sold it was in a PSA holder.

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RCFire82 09-14-2023 12:07 AM

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Another Chase

itjclarke 09-14-2023 02:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 2372768)
That Mathewson has Run the Gamut of graders. The first time it sold it was in a Beckett holder then it was crossed over to the SGC holder and the last two times it sold it was in a PSA holder.

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Nope, that PSA is not the same Ted's SGC, just an AB doppelganger. I know because it is mine.

Pat R 09-14-2023 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by itjclarke (Post 2372785)
Nope, that PSA is not the same Ted's SGC, just an AB doppelganger. I know because it is mine.

Hi Ian, it's the same card in all three holders. Ted must have sold/traded it and someone had it crossed over to PSA at some point.

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brob28 09-14-2023 08:17 AM

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My one and only with plenty of wear.

tedzan 09-14-2023 05:01 PM

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) cards. Let's have some fun showing & talking about them
 
" Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio ? "



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ilynMonroe.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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inceptus 09-14-2023 05:29 PM

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My pair:

Rich Falvo 09-14-2023 07:29 PM

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I've only got three. Izzy was my first.

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ValKehl 09-14-2023 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 2372959)
" Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio ? "



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ilynMonroe.jpg



TED Z

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Ted, I believe this is the no-frame variation! :)

brianp-beme 09-15-2023 02:11 AM

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Here is my American Beauty (with frame) of Gaavy 'Fatty' Cravath, along with a much more typical slim American Beauty (no frame) example of Doyle, and a regular (or slightly wider than typically seen) Piedmont of Manning for comparison.

Brian

tedzan 09-16-2023 07:01 PM

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) cards. Let's have some fun showing & talking about them
 
Five of the Six Super Prints with AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) backs.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...EversAB350.jpg----------https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...chasedkcap.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...versAB350b.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...hasedkcapb.jpg----https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...hasedkcapb.jpg



https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...50mattysgc.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...yab350x50x.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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tedzan 09-18-2023 05:57 PM

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (frame) cards. Let's have some fun showing & talking about them
 
Fine examples of the three styles of the AMERICAN BEAUTY series cards......


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...erfeldDRUM.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...rfeldDRUMb.jpg






. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...obbBat25xx.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...CobbBat25x.jpg



TED Z

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