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cgjackson222 09-04-2023 11:27 PM

Tuesday Trivia: Back-to-back MVPs at each position
 
Of the first 10 players to win MVP in consecutive years, all 9 positions were represented. Who are those 9 players and what position did the play during their back-to-back MVP seasons?

Eddiez 09-05-2023 04:41 AM

Campanella Catcher?

cgjackson222 09-05-2023 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Eddiez (Post 2370236)
Campanella Catcher?

Campanella, won MVP every other year during a 5 year stretch ('51-'55).

orioles70 09-05-2023 06:56 AM

If my memory is correct Berra, Banks, Maris and Murphy were back to back winners.

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Aquarian Sports Cards 09-05-2023 07:06 AM

I ask this question all the time. Though I phrase it "The first 9 players to win back to back MVP's represented all 9 positions (if you make outfield positions interchangeable)"

cgjackson222 09-05-2023 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 2370258)
If my memory is correct Berra, Banks, Maris and Murphy were back to back winners.

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Ernie Banks was the first shortsop and Maris the first RF to win consecutive MVPs. But neither Berra nor Murphy were the first at their positions. (I am not using outfield positions interchangeably)

BobbyStrawberry 09-05-2023 08:37 AM

Mantle?

cgjackson222 09-05-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2370279)
Mantle?

Yes Mickey Mantle was the first CF to win back-to-back MVPs.

We are left with P, C, 1B, 2B, 3B, and LF

mogwai316 09-05-2023 09:00 AM

P - Hal Newhouser
2B - Joe Morgan

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 09:08 AM

Schmidt?

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 09:13 AM

Bench?

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 09:14 AM

Bonds?

cgjackson222 09-05-2023 09:24 AM

Yogi Berra was the first catcher (sorry I was thinking Cochrane, but he didn't do it back-to-back). Hal Newhouser was the first pitcher, Joe Morgan the first 2B, Mike Schmidt the first 3B, and Barry Bonds the first LF.

Just missing First Base.

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 09:26 AM

Pujols?

cgjackson222 09-05-2023 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2370298)
Pujols?

Earlier.

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2370302)
Earlier.

Frank Thomas.

cgjackson222 09-05-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2370306)
Frank Thomas.

The answer is actually the earliest of any

Cliff Bowman 09-05-2023 10:05 AM

Hank Greenberg? Jimmie Foxx?

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2370314)
The answer is actually the earliest of any

Then it has to be Foxx or Gehrig I guess.

cgjackson222 09-05-2023 10:14 AM

Jimmie Foxx won his first two MVPs in '32 and '33.

Great job everyone!

packs 09-05-2023 01:29 PM

I know Hubbell won two MVPs also but not back to back. Are there any others besides him and Newhauser?

To win two total I mean.

cgjackson222 09-05-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2370372)
I know Hubbell won two MVPs also but not back to back. Are there any others besides him and Newhauser?

To win two total I mean.

I think Walter Johnson was the first player to win multiple MVPs

packs 09-05-2023 01:53 PM

Oh wow. I didn't realize Walter had two MVPs too.

If Ohtani wins this year, does he go down as another two time pitcher? Pretty small club.

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 02:59 PM

How does Babe Ruth win only one MVP award?

Cliff Bowman 09-05-2023 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2370399)
How does Babe Ruth win only one MVP award?

Nolan Ryan never winning a Cy Young Award is what amazes me.

cgjackson222 09-05-2023 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2370399)
How does Babe Ruth win only one MVP award?

So I think Walter Johnson won MVP twice and the Babe only once because from 1911-14 it was the Chalmers Award presented by the Chalmers Automobile Company. WaJo won it in 1913 and the Babe's first year was 1914.

There was no MVP award from 1915-21. From 1922-1929, the MVP award was reinstated and became the “League Awards”, during which time, both the Babe and WaJo won only one award, because, according to the rules, a player was only allowed to receive the recognition once.

There was no award in 1930, and in 1931 Left Grove won it with a 31-4 record and 2.04 ERA (Babe Ruth finished 5th, but still probably deserved to win it). The Babe was no longer as dominant from 1932 to the end of his career in '35.

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222 (Post 2370423)
So I think Walter Johnson won MVP twice and the Babe only once because from 1911-14 it was the Chalmers Award presented by the Chalmers Automobile Company. WaJo won it in 1913 and the Babe's first year was 1914.

There was no MVP award from 1915-21. From 1922-1929, the MVP award was reinstated and became the “League Awards”, during which time, both the Babe and WaJo won only one award, because, according to the rules, a player was only allowed to receive the recognition once.

There was no award in 1930, and in 1931 Left Grove won it with a 31-4 record and 2.04 ERA (Babe Ruth finished 5th, but still probably deserved to win it). The Babe was no longer as dominant from 1932 to the end of his career in '35.

Ah ok. Probably by any objective measure and assuming no no-repeat rule he should have won 8 or more times.

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2370419)
Nolan Ryan never winning a Cy Young Award is what amazes me.

Walks.

packs 09-05-2023 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2370490)
Ah ok. Probably by any objective measure and assuming no no-repeat rule he should have won 8 or more times.

He had an OPS over 200 eleven times. Have to think he would have won every one of those seasons alone.

Actually two of those 200 plus OPS years he finished 5th and 6th. Insane.

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 06:37 PM

Other than the stomach ache year, he led the league EVERY year from 1919 to 1931, and had 201 in 1932.

Peter_Spaeth 09-05-2023 06:46 PM

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