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GregZakwin 08-09-2023 02:36 PM

1946 Negro League Yearbook -- Assistance Needed
 
Took a chance and purchased this but I don't have a ton of familiarity or expertise in yearbooks. Would love feedback from anyone who can provide it. The more research I do, the worse I feel about its potential for being authentic, but perhaps the more modern binding and duller color don't inherently mean it's not legit.

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Lorewalker 08-09-2023 02:41 PM

That version does not look like one I have ever seen however, plastic spiral binding was around in the 1940s.

vansaad 08-09-2023 03:02 PM

Unfortunately, the cover looks to be a photocopy. Here is an original from a Goldin auction last year for comparison:

https://goldin.co/item/1946-negro-ba...ite-pagesgfzfm

Hankphenom 08-09-2023 05:46 PM

Yours is a copy, without a doubt. It's basically worthless, hope you didn't pay too much.

Tere1071 08-09-2023 07:17 PM

I used to own a copy, this is a reprint. The original comes as a magazine that is stapled, not spiral bound.

Phil aka Tere1071

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Grigsby 08-10-2023 09:43 AM

My first impression was looks like it was made at Kinko's.

Hankphenom 08-10-2023 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregZakwin (Post 2362994)
Took a chance and purchased this but I don't have a ton of familiarity or expertise in yearbooks. Would love feedback from anyone who can provide it. The more research I do, the worse I feel about its potential for being authentic, but perhaps the more modern binding and duller color don't inherently mean it's not legit.

Greg, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but if you're going to be collecting high-end memorabilia like an original of this would be, you need to 1) learn a LOT more about what true vintage stuff looks like, and 2) Exercise extreme caution about shelling out real dollars for worthless junk like this. The fact that you bought this and had even the slightest thought it might be real tells me you've done neither.

GregZakwin 08-11-2023 10:21 PM

Appreciate almost everyone's response, thank you for the confirmation

GregZakwin 08-11-2023 10:26 PM

So many things I'd like to say, but I'll pass. Not worth the energy.

Next time, a no works too.

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2363191)
Greg, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but if you're going to be collecting high-end memorabilia like an original of this would be, you need to 1) learn a LOT more about what true vintage stuff looks like, and 2) Exercise extreme caution about shelling out real dollars for worthless junk like this. The fact that you bought this and had even the slightest thought it might be real tells me you've done neither.


Hankphenom 08-12-2023 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregZakwin (Post 2363628)
So many things I'd like to say, but I'll pass. Not worth the energy. Next time, a no works too.

No idea what that means, but if I came off as too hard, I apologize. My intent was to express my concern that you would pay for this as a real program and alert you in no uncertain terms as to how much more caution you need to exercise before you shell out money for your collection. Anybody that knows me can tell you that I was trying to help you.

jingram058 08-12-2023 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Grigsby (Post 2363171)
My first impression was looks like it was made at Kinko's.

Kinkos is out of business, taken over by FedEx so long ago that if this is a Kinkos copy, it's darned near old enough to be legit!

jingram058 08-12-2023 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2363191)
Greg, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but if you're going to be collecting high-end memorabilia like an original of this would be, you need to 1) learn a LOT more about what true vintage stuff looks like, and 2) Exercise extreme caution about shelling out real dollars for worthless junk like this. The fact that you bought this and had even the slightest thought it might be real tells me you've done neither.

Wow, real nice way to introduce someone to the world of memorabilia.

I'll make certain I consult you going forward with any authentication questions.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 08-12-2023 10:28 AM

It's 2023. Everything has to be said and done with kid gloves or else somebody's anxiety issues get triggered.

Leon 08-12-2023 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jingram058 (Post 2363702)
Wow, real nice way to introduce someone to the world of memorabilia.

I'll make certain I consult you going forward with any authentication questions.

I have known Hank (hi Hank) for around 20+ yrs. He was truly only trying to help, although, I can see how you might be a bit offended at the approach. But rest assured, there isn't a nicer guy around.

And from own personal experiences, I used to learn the hard way, and still do many times!! And I will be 62 soon...
.

RCMcKenzie 08-12-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B (Post 2363719)
It's 2023. Everything has to be said and done with kid gloves or else somebody's anxiety issues get triggered.

My anxiety went up and he wasn't even talking to me. I didn't know anything about this item until this thread, so I learned a little. Looks like the originals go for $650.

To me a copy of a book is better than a reprinted card because you can read the copy of the book and place it on a shelf.

Exhibitman 08-12-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2363723)
I will be 62 soon...
.

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Bitch%202.jpg

Says one old SOB to another...

jingram058 08-12-2023 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2363689)
No idea what that means, but if I came off as too hard, I apologize. My intent was to express my concern that you would pay for this as a real program and alert you in no uncertain terms as to how much more caution you need to exercise before you shell out money for your collection. Anybody that knows me can tell you that I was trying to help you.

I apologize, Hank, for jumping in where I didn't belong.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 08-12-2023 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2363737)

To me a copy of a book is better than a reprinted card because you can read the copy of the book and place it on a shelf.

I agree. On a semi-related note, more modern books can become collectibles in a hurry if they target niche markets and/or have short print runs. Two things in life that you tend to learn through experience: if you find such a book and know you're going to make good, hands-on use of it, buy at least one extra copy that remains on the shelf, not to be touched. You'll feel easier about reading your other copy that way, and maybe cash in with the coddled copy. Similarly, if you find a great pair of comfortable shoes, go back to the same place you bought them and buy two more pairs. You'll thank yourself constantly.

Vintagedeputy 08-12-2023 04:18 PM

To play devil's advocate, I don't see anywhere that Greg said he paid $500 for this hoping for it to be real. He could have paid $5.00 and still hoped it to be real. I think the point of it was that he was just trying to determine it to be real or not.

Hankphenom 08-12-2023 08:50 PM

Thanks for the support, guys. And for my part I will try to be more sensitive next time I see somebody throwing their money away or maybe just leave it alone.

Eggoman 08-13-2023 07:47 AM

Hey Hank - I don't know you, but I'm in your camp.

That said, IF a "modest amount" was spent on the Yearbook - it was a cheap, good lesson!

CHEERS!

Hankphenom 08-13-2023 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Eggoman (Post 2363950)
Hey Hank - I don't know you, but I'm in your camp.
That said, IF a "modest amount" was spent on the Yearbook - it was a cheap, good lesson! CHEERS!

Yes, and we've all been there at one time or another!


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