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robertsmithnocure 07-13-2023 09:53 AM

Ruth’s Galore at Auction
 
I do not remember seeing so many scarce Ruth cards in current and upcoming auctions. Heritage has 3 different M101-4/5 rookies alone and there are at least 5 different E135 Collins McCarthy/Boston Store Ruths between them and Memory Lane.

I do not think that any of these auctions fly below the radar, so I do not think that I am outing anything, so here are a couple of links to the Memory Lane and Heritage upcoming offerings.

IF you have the budget, it is a good time to be a Ruth collector. And, no, none of these consignments are mine.

https://secure.viewer.zmags.com/publication/b8b99e2f

https://sports.ha.com/c/search-resul...earch-A-071316

ullmandds 07-13-2023 10:06 AM

i'd wager most set new records.

parkplace33 07-13-2023 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 2355439)
I do not remember seeing so many scarce Ruth cards in current and upcoming auctions. Heritage has 3 different M101-4/5 rookies alone and there are at least 5 different E135 Collins McCarthy/Boston Store Ruths between them and Memory Lane.

I do not think that any of these auctions fly below the radar, so I do not think that I am outing anything, so here are a couple of links to the Memory Lane and Heritage upcoming offerings.

IF you have the budget, it is a good time to be a Ruth collector. And, no, none of these consignments are mine.

https://secure.viewer.zmags.com/publication/b8b99e2f

https://sports.ha.com/c/search-resul...earch-A-071316

That auction will be lights out. Great stuff!

mrreality68 07-13-2023 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2355453)
That auction will be lights out. Great stuff!

+1 Agreed and wait to you see the high lights from memory lane over 20+ Rare and High Quality Ruth Cards also for their August Auction I believe. (sorry did not see the LINK about)

To much great stuff and to close together. Going to miss out on most or all because of no time in between to get the resources for even 1 item

brianp-beme 07-13-2023 11:48 AM

All 8 cards were consigned by me. Shortly I will be a gamillionaire.

Brian (edited to indicate that I actually consigned all 8 Ruth cards, not just 5. I absentmindedly forgot about consigning those other 3)

Seven 07-13-2023 12:37 PM

Ruth and Mantle are the two players where so many examples of their cards, and autographs are available, but they still rake in the cash due to their massive popularity.

I don't think this is a stretch by any means, but Mantle IS the Ruth of the post war era. As American as apple pie. We will eventually approach the point in time, where no one buying Mantle cards/memorabilia/autos will have been alive to see him play, and he will still sell like crazy.

That being said, I hope to own a singular Ruth one day. His Sanella issue is still decently priced, but I would love something from the 1920's of his. Maybe one day, after I'm able to afford a home!

Peter_Spaeth 07-13-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven (Post 2355475)
Ruth and Mantle are the two players where so many examples of their cards, and autographs are available, but they still rake in the cash due to their massive popularity.

I don't think this is a stretch by any means, but Mantle IS the Ruth of the post war era. As American as apple pie. We will eventually approach the point in time, where no one buying Mantle cards/memorabilia/autos will have been alive to see him play, and he will still sell like crazy.

That being said, I hope to own a singular Ruth one day. His Sanella issue is still decently priced, but I would love something from the 1920's of his. Maybe one day, after I'm able to afford a home!

Agree they are in a class of their own. Maybe Jackie as a cultural icon comes close. Have you considered a Kashin Ruth, I believe they are still relatively affordable.

oldjudge 07-13-2023 02:46 PM

Looks like a few big collectors think the market is topping.

Huck 07-13-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2355499)
Looks like a few big collectors think the market is topping.

+1 - Cash out at the what they believe is the top.

JeremyW 07-13-2023 03:22 PM

There was a time when hardly any Ruths got listed in the BST. Now, it's not that rare.

ullmandds 07-13-2023 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 2355499)
Looks like a few big collectors think the market is topping.

Or… someone is nearing retirement or looking to pay for kids education or looking for a house for themselves or their children I could think of tons of reasons why people would sell.

Seven 07-13-2023 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2355477)
Agree they are in a class of their own. Maybe Jackie as a cultural icon comes close. Have you considered a Kashin Ruth, I believe they are still relatively affordable.

A Kashin Ruth is actually one of the cards I've considered. Love his pose on that issue. I'm not sure what an A or 1 would go for though. I'd wager a touch above 1.5K?

Jstottlemire1 07-13-2023 04:38 PM

I’ve been sitting back waiting on this and have a few targets I’m eagerly awaiting. Fingers crossed.

mrreality68 07-13-2023 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jstottlemire1 (Post 2355529)
I’ve been sitting back waiting on this and have a few targets I’m eagerly awaiting. Fingers crossed.

Smart Josh very smart.
Sadly some of us were not sitting and waiting and (got some great stuff) but will probably miss out on the mother load. Lol:eek::eek:

Peter_Spaeth 07-13-2023 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven (Post 2355523)
A Kashin Ruth is actually one of the cards I've considered. Love his pose on that issue. I'm not sure what an A or 1 would go for though. I'd wager a touch above 1.5K?

This one if I recall was about 4K earlier this year so I would think you're on target for an A or 1.

Jstottlemire1 07-14-2023 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2355532)
Smart Josh very smart.
Sadly some of us were not sitting and waiting and (got some great stuff) but will probably miss out on the mother load. Lol:eek::eek:

Let me know if anything you’ll be pursuing. I never want to drive things up on fellow collectors. I have 3-4 cards I’m
considering only 1-2 possible however.

Yoda 07-14-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven (Post 2355475)
Ruth and Mantle are the two players where so many examples of their cards, and autographs are available, but they still rake in the cash due to their massive popularity.

I don't think this is a stretch by any means, but Mantle IS the Ruth of the post war era. As American as apple pie. We will eventually approach the point in time, where no one buying Mantle cards/memorabilia/autos will have been alive to see him play, and he will still sell like crazy.

That being said, I hope to own a singular Ruth one day. His Sanella issue is still decently priced, but I would love something from the 1920's of his. Maybe one day, after I'm able to afford a home!

Steve, I am glad to report that I saw the Mick play several times and am still upright and sniffing the air.
One of my fondest memories is going to a Yanks game with my Dad at the old Yankee stadium when Mickey hit 2 round trippers, one from each side of the plate.

Seven 07-14-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2355724)
Steve, I am glad to report that I saw the Mick play several times and am still upright and sniffing the air.
One of my fondest memories is going to a Yanks game with my Dad at the old Yankee stadium when Mickey hit 2 round trippers, one from each side of the plate.

John,

My name is actually James, my username is Seven, in honor of the Mick, but I certainly have been called worse than Steve :D

My father got to see Mantle play, he inspired the love of collecting that I have, especially of the Mick (Though his cards are long gone, oh what could've been?)

Please know, I meant no disrespect when talking about the generation of men that were fortunate enough to see him play. I wish I could've called myself lucky enough to see him play, or at least have met him at a show, as the Mick died, shortly after my first birthday.

Yoda 07-14-2023 01:15 PM

James, sorry for the name mixup. As a post note to my earlier message, my Dad saw Ruth and Gehrig play many times and regaled my with their exploits. Best, John

Peter_Spaeth 07-14-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2355731)
James, sorry for the name mixup. As a post note to my earlier message, my Dad saw Ruth and Gehrig play many times and regaled my with their exploits. Best, John

My Dad was a little younger, his guy was DiMaggio. I did get to see Mantle towards the end of his career against the Senators. Even as a kid, you could sense he had an aura about him.

gonefishin 07-14-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2355731)
James, sorry for the name mixup. As a post note to my earlier message, my Dad saw Ruth and Gehrig play many times and regaled my with their exploits. Best, John

Thanks for your posts John, and amazing that both you and your dad got to see some of the greatest players of all time in person.

Unfortunately, I grew up in a very rural area of Arkansas in the 50s and 60s. When your family makes a living picking cotton or working on a farm there isn't much of an opportunity to go to an actual game. Of course, we cheered for the Cardinals during that period and the only time we got to see a game was on television.

I would like to add that we also cheered for the Yankees and Mantle was always the card kids were looking to obtain. However, trading a Musial for a Mantle was almost sacraligous. I still have my Mantles that I traded for or cut off the back of cereal boxes as a kid.

How would like to see game 7 of the 1964 series between the Yankees and Cardinals! Bob Gibson at his finest and Mantle blasting a 3 run homer! Gibson finished the series with a 1.56 ERA and won the MVP. However, no matter how great you were during that period of time, Mantle could light you up!

Seven 07-14-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin (Post 2355756)
Thanks for your posts John, and amazing that both you and your dad got to see some of the greatest players of all time in person.

Unfortunately, I grew up in a very rural area of Arkansas in the 50s and 60s. When your family makes a living picking cotton or working on a farm there isn't much of an opportunity to go to an actual game. Of course, we cheered for the Cardinals during that period and the only time we got to see a game was on television.

I would like to add that we also cheered for the Yankees and Mantle was always the card kids were looking to obtain. However, trading a Musial for a Mantle was almost sacraligous. I still have my Mantles that I traded for or cut off the back of cereal boxes as a kid.

How would like to see game 7 of the 1964 series between the Yankees and Cardinals! Bob Gibson at his finest and Mantle blasting a 3 run homer! Gibson finished the series with a 1.56 ERA and won the MVP. However, no matter how great you were during that period of time, Mantle could light you up!

We take so much for granted nowadays, especially in terms of having access to the literal world at our fingertips.

I've spoken about this with the older generations of my family. Going to day/night double headers, admission and concessions being cheap, you truly got your money's worth back then. Nowadays taking a family to a game is borderline impossible, considering the amount of money it costs. Hell, the movies are getting too expensive!

In many ways, 1964 was Mantle's final hurrah, as he was never the same after that season. Father time, and injuries caught up to him too quickly, plus the booze didn't help. The same could be said about The Babe, with his 1932 season, really being the last true "Ruthian" year.

Schlesinj 07-15-2023 12:41 PM

I was watching the Collins Ruth PSA 3 and it did not move much during extended bidding. It ended up at 144k after BP. The estimate was 200k. It was not centered well so maybe that kept it getting to the high end. Either way 17 PSA with only 1 graded higher and 10 SGC means someone got a really rare Ruth.


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