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Mike D. 05-21-2023 07:16 PM

PSA: What Am I Missing?
 
Two 1986 Leaf Fred McGriff cards, both from the same box, submitted to PSA in the same sub.

http://baseball-trivia-game.com/images/mcgriff_8.jpg

http://baseball-trivia-game.com/images/mcgriff_2.jpg

I don't have the cards back in hand yet...but an 8 and a 2? What am I missing here?

Jim65 05-21-2023 07:39 PM

I'm guessing its a wrinkle or crease that you might not have noticed

EldoEsq 05-21-2023 08:06 PM

Even a wrinkle or crease would probably bring it to a 3 in that shape...very odd grade

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swarmee 05-21-2023 08:31 PM

A grade disparity like that is either a mechanical error or the card has some water damage that you didn't notice.

Mike D. 05-22-2023 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2341805)
A grade disparity like that is either a mechanical error or the card has some water damage that you didn't notice.

Once I have the cards back in hand, I will take a closer look.

The cards came directly from an unopened box into a penny sleeve and card saver, after getting a once-over under a magnifying glass.

The other card I subbed from the box, a Nolan Ryan, came back a "9".

bnorth 05-22-2023 06:24 AM

They do occasionally get cards wrong and highly over grade them. That could explain the PSA 8 grade.:eek::D

D. Bergin 05-22-2023 09:32 AM

Wax stain?

Mike D. 05-22-2023 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2341850)
They do occasionally get cards wrong and highly over grade them. That could explain the PSA 8 grade.:eek::D

Perhaps I've been looking at this whole thing the wrong way....maybe the glass ISN'T half empty! :D

Mike D. 05-22-2023 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 2341892)
Wax stain?

I don't recall one...when the card arrives back (probably tomorrow) will have to check. Would that send it all the way down to a "2"?

I wish PSA would provide notes on cards like this. I get not explaining why an 8 isn't a 9 isn't a 10 (assuming there actually are reasons), but a modern card a "2"? That could use some explanation.

I do now own the single lowest graded card that PSA has ever graded from 1986 Leaf....that's gotta be worth something, right? "Pop X, none lower". Technically, it's rarer than a 10.

Peter_Spaeth 05-22-2023 03:14 PM

This may just be a mistake. The more disturbing issue to me is the huge volume of cards intentionally graded 2 grades too low.

Mike D. 05-22-2023 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2342016)
This may just be a mistake. The more disturbing issue to me is the huge volume of cards intentionally graded 2 grades too low.

I'm fairly convinced that that modern cards without obvious flaws get put in the "pull a number out of the hat" pile, where the hat has 8, 9, and 10 options.

Either that, or I'm just terrible at subbing cards. :D

Mike D. 05-23-2023 04:29 PM

OK...cards arrived back today. I still don't see anything on the McGriff. Think I may have had a less than stellar grader...in addition to the McGriff, I have one card that came back a 7...because of a dinged corner that wasn't there when I subbed it....and a typo on a player name on a label. *sigh*


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