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parkplace33 05-06-2023 07:34 AM
1933 Foxx - Correct grade?
 
This card is currently up for auction in ML

https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=75955

At first I thought it was a reholder, but it is a new grade with SGC. Are they more lenient with Goudeys? There is a lot of print on the front to warrant a 8.5 but is that okay for this high grade?

Johnny630 05-06-2023 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2337797)
This card is currently up for auction in ML

https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=75955

At first I thought it was a reholder, but it is a new grade with SGC. Are they more lenient with Goudeys? There is a lot of print on the front to warrant a 8.5 but is that okay for this high grade?
Yikes those corners 8.5 ? I guess if this was a reholdered, they didn’t want to buy back the difference in price and lower the grade.

The Detroit Collector 05-06-2023 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2337798)
Yikes those corners 8.5 ? I guess if this was a reholdered, they didn’t want to buy back the difference in price and lower the grade.
+1. looks over graded.

Peter_Spaeth 05-06-2023 10:13 AM
It could be a reholder from an earlier grade, much as one sometimes sees with PSA, although with PSA you can often tell by the cert numbers. SGC will reassign a new one.

BeanTown 05-06-2023 12:00 PM
I see they featured 153 lots in their auction and then in lot 154 this card isn’t featured? https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=76053

Peter_Spaeth 05-06-2023 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BeanTown (Post 2337857)
I see they featured 153 lots in their auction and then in lot 154 this card isn’t featured? https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=76053
Do the corners look natural to you?

Fred 05-06-2023 12:28 PM
I wouldn't have pegged it at an 8.5, but somebody did and now the "perception" is there.

We can debate all day whether or not it is an 8.5, but the fact is that it's in an 8.5 slab, therefore it is an 8.5 and it doesn't matter what people see, think and believe.

Baaaaaahhhhh, goes the sheep...

BeanTown 05-06-2023 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2337859)
Do the corners look natural to you?
Top left looks like a ski jump

Johnny630 05-06-2023 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BeanTown (Post 2337857)
I see they featured 153 lots in their auction and then in lot 154 this card isn’t featured? https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=76053
It’s not a 8.... it’s more likely Authentic Altered

Tyruscobb 05-06-2023 01:31 PM
Looks obviously trimmed, at least to me.

Peter_Spaeth 05-06-2023 01:48 PM
You wonder what the 2 PSA 9s look like.

G1911 05-06-2023 04:03 PM
I’m shocked Memory Lane doesn’t mention those slopes in their three paragraphs of nauseating hyperbolic hype for the card. I wonder why, considering that we’ve all learned that there is not a stigma against trimmed cards and it wouldn’t hurt the value.

Casey2296 05-06-2023 04:45 PM
Perfect example of the kind of pre-war card that scares me. I just don't trust those edges to be honest, someone will and pay big money for the card though.

Peter_Spaeth 05-06-2023 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2337933)
Perfect example of the kind of pre-war card that scares me. I just don't trust those edges to be honest, someone will and pay big money for the flip though.
Fixed it for you.

Casey2296 05-06-2023 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2337934)
Fixed it for you.
And bow to the almighty registry...

Peter_Spaeth 05-06-2023 05:11 PM
I remember years back someone posted a group of the four Cobbs in PSA 8. Amid the inevitable oohs and ahs and wow just wows, a number of us wondered if cards that noticeably short were really original. :eek:

raulus 05-06-2023 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2337937)
And bow to the almighty registry...
Is there a registry for SGC cards now?

I suspect most of the PSA registry acolytes would be wary about trying to cross this one over.

So while the registry is a factor for a lot of high graded pieces, I’m not sure the same holds true for pieces in SGC holders, unless the buyer has some expectation that they can successfully cross it.

G1911 05-06-2023 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2337945)
Is there a registry for SGC cards now?

I suspect most of the PSA registry acolytes would be wary about trying to cross this one over.

So while the registry is a factor for a lot of high graded pieces, I’m not sure the same holds true for pieces in SGC holders, unless the buyer has some expectation that they can successfully cross it.
The 8 graded Trimmed Cobb is in a PSA holder.

Peter_Spaeth 05-06-2023 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2337961)
The 8 graded Trimmed Cobb is in a PSA holder.
Sometimes it helps to read a thread before commenting on it.

Casey2296 05-06-2023 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2337945)
Is there a registry for SGC cards now?

I suspect most of the PSA registry acolytes would be wary about trying to cross this one over.

So while the registry is a factor for a lot of high graded pieces, I’m not sure the same holds true for pieces in SGC holders, unless the buyer has some expectation that they can successfully cross it.
No, Sgc screwed the pooch on keeping their registry going and while a crossover would be risky I'm thinking the right submitter could get it crossed.

Johnny630 05-06-2023 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2337945)
Is there a registry for SGC cards now?

I suspect most of the PSA registry acolytes would be wary about trying to cross this one over.:):o:)

So while the registry is a factor for a lot of high graded pieces, I’m not sure the same holds true for pieces in SGC holders, unless the buyer has some expectation that they can successfully cross it.
As you know The only Pop Report and Registry in the Hobby that Matters is PSA

Sadly SGC Has no Relevant Registry

Eric72 05-07-2023 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyruscobb (Post 2337884)
Looks obviously trimmed, at least to me.
You’re not the only one who sees that. It looks poorly trimmed, at that.

raulus 05-07-2023 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2337961)
The 8 graded Trimmed Cobb is in a PSA holder.
We must be looking at different links…

This is the card that I’m seeing.

G1911 05-07-2023 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2338135)
We must be looking at different links…

This is the card that I’m seeing.
Read the whole thread and it will make sense.

Fred 05-07-2023 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2337973)
As you know The only Pop Report and Registry in the Hobby that Matters is PSA

Sadly SGC Has no Relevant Registry
It's like getting a free virtual coattail ride from PSA to SGC. People may want PSA, but they'll settle for SGC because the rest of the community will accept SGC as a "substitute".

Think PSA = Heroin and SGC (and other TPGs) = methadone. One way or other someone will be able to get a fix, maybe just not the preferred fix.

Johnny630 05-07-2023 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred (Post 2338149)
It's like getting a free virtual coattail ride from PSA to SGC. People may want PSA, but they'll settle for SGC because the rest of the community will accept SGC as a "substitute".

Think PSA = Heroin and SGC (and other TPGs) = methadone. One way or other someone will be able to get a fix, maybe just not the preferred fix.
That’s a pretty cool analogy Fred! I dig it :-)

raulus 05-07-2023 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2338147)
Read the whole thread and it will make sense.
Thanks. My mistake not clicking the new link midway through. I just lazily assumed it was the same as from the OP.


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