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nwobhm 01-05-2023 01:11 PM

1933 Delong Fake?
 
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Seller refuses to supply picture of the back. I’m starting to think the borders are to wide and the corners are overly sharp.

Jay Wolt 01-05-2023 01:39 PM

Even if its legit, if seller refuses a back scan, I'd walk away

brianp-beme 01-05-2023 01:45 PM

The wide borders and different coloration in main section, at least what is seen on this poor scan, would make me believe this is not legit.

Brian

Snapolit1 01-05-2023 01:49 PM

Is the rule now that you can call this kind of stuff out on ebay sales and other locations but not on BST when a fellow board member is perpetraing it? Just trying to keep up with the unwritten rules.

brianp-beme 01-05-2023 02:12 PM

I would think questioning the authenticity of a card would be acceptable...safeguarding the community against a probable non-legitimate card would be something I would expect to happen in this place. The whole pricing dilemma...I could go either way.

Brian

Gorditadogg 01-05-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2301380)
Is the rule now that you can call this kind of stuff out on ebay sales and other locations but not on BST when a fellow board member is perpetraing it? Just trying to keep up with the unwritten rules.

There are written rules on this, Steve. Check out Leon's post in the BST thread.

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LEHR 01-05-2023 02:55 PM

Run.
I'd bet the house that's just an aged reprint. I've never seen top and bottom boarders that big on a Delong, plus it looks like it's got tons of age/patina and yet still has sharp corner. Nope, I'm not buying it.

JimmyC 01-05-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Wolt (Post 2301373)
Even if its legit, if seller refuses a back scan, I'd walk away

Concur…..run, don’t walk…..

Chris-Counts 01-05-2023 03:14 PM

That's a lousy fake — the colors aren't right and the borders are too wide.

BabyRuth 01-05-2023 04:43 PM

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Here's a real one

Pat R 01-05-2023 05:29 PM

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Besides the reasons already mentioned another dead giveaway is the stands jut in and out of the white border on legit examples like this one but the reprints have a straight white border in that area.

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nwobhm 01-05-2023 06:09 PM

Thankyou very much for all the replies

JimmyC 01-05-2023 08:05 PM

As an aside, if someone can’t take the time to send me a photo of the back of the card they are selling - whether it’s a $3 card or a $10,000 card, I call BS on (1) the Seller; (2) there may be an unknown flaw on the back - or the centering may be awful and (3) True card collectors evaluate all aspects of a card, which includes the back of a card…..

If someone ignores that request and or says no to the request, they are not a true collector and I do not want to do business with them…,,

Leon 01-06-2023 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2301380)
Is the rule now that you can call this kind of stuff out on ebay sales and other locations but not on BST when a fellow board member is perpetraing it? Just trying to keep up with the unwritten rules.

Always has been the written rule. LMK if you can't see the Icon, right above, that says Net54 Baseball Forum Rules?

"One exception is to expose fraudulent activity. It may always be posted in any thread, anywhere on the board, but you better have your ducks in a row and your name by your post when you report these misdeeds."

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JustinD 01-06-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Wolt (Post 2301373)
Even if its legit, if seller refuses a back scan, I'd walk away

My rule in all cases. I don't complain to the seller (not picking on you), I just ghost them and move on. Some times people just don't want to bother.

BioCRN 01-06-2023 03:31 PM

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Too many people get stung buying raw from Probstein (auction is over, EBay) assuming the massive feedback means they're trustworthy to check the card for legitimacy.

This has been a problem for them for a very long time with no end in sight.

Love this card, btw. I was considering this card or a Riggs Stephenson for my Cubs collection and went with the Warneke. Fun fact, he's also got a 1955 Bowman card as an umpire...easily one of the best player-turned-umps.

Yoda 01-06-2023 05:01 PM

Perhaps the back states reprint; hence, the sellers reluctance to reveal it.

jingram058 01-07-2023 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2301802)
Perhaps the back states reprint; hence, the sellers reluctance to reveal it.

Bingo! ^^^ This! ^^^

jingram058 01-07-2023 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BioCRN (Post 2301779)
Too many people get stung buying raw from Probstein (auction is over, EBay) assuming the massive feedback means they're trustworthy to check the card for legitimacy.

This has been a problem for them for a very long time with no end in sight.

Love this card, btw. I was considering this card or a Riggs Stephenson for my Cubs collection and went with the Warneke. Fun fact, he's also got a 1955 Bowman card as an umpire...easily one of the best player-turned-umps.

2 very 🆒 cards, sir!

Leon 01-10-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2301802)
Perhaps the back states reprint; hence, the sellers reluctance to reveal it.

Probably!!
And then there are those sellers whom don't put up back scans and ARE bigger, legitimate sellers. I always like to see the backs. Sellers should always show them unless they are blank, with no damage, and the ad states as such.
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