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Peter_Spaeth 12-21-2022 07:04 PM

Alternative first cards
 
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I don't think we've done this in quite some time.

packs 12-21-2022 07:20 PM

Still don't know who issued this card but it comes from the 1959 Dominican Winter League. Matty was 19 and also on the team, and maybe theoretically has a card somewhere out there, was Willie McCovey:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bb6fd5e0b7.jpg

mikecala98 12-21-2022 07:55 PM

Would this 1968 Nolan Ryan fit the bill?

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Peter_Spaeth 12-21-2022 07:56 PM

Isn't that 1969?

mikecala98 12-21-2022 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2296459)
Isn't that 1969?

TCDB has it as 68. No Nolan in the 69 set.

Peter_Spaeth 12-21-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecala98 (Post 2296472)
TCDB has it as 68. No Nolan in the 69 set.

Hmmm ... PSA labels it 69 pretty sure. Nice card anyhow, great picture.

Peter_Spaeth 12-21-2022 08:32 PM

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This was a grail for me.

bobsbbcards 12-22-2022 08:28 AM

https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...n_original.jpg


https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...etsRookies.jpg

packs 12-22-2022 09:21 AM

I've got this one too:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8d631be36e.jpg

ALR-bishop 12-22-2022 10:29 AM

Great stuff everyone

midmo 12-22-2022 11:10 AM

1954 Johnston Cookies Hank Aaron
 
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midmo 12-22-2022 11:11 AM

1946-47 Propagandas Montiel Stan Musial
 
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Lucas00 12-22-2022 11:11 AM

I'll take any opportunity I can to share mine. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f3795fb4da.jpg

Exhibitman 12-22-2022 02:07 PM

1950-51 Toleteros

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%20Gilliam.jpg

Peter_Spaeth 12-22-2022 03:05 PM

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Whatever year it's from is still earlier than 48 Leaf.

jb67 12-22-2022 03:19 PM

Great thread. Seeing some cool cardboard that I have never seen before. Here is my contribution to the thread.

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...issue-pc-psa-1

G1911 12-22-2022 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2296713)
Whatever year it's from is still earlier than 48 Leaf.

I’m pretty sure Newhouser was actually one of the cards carried into the 1947-1966 sets. Some of the 1939-1946’s were included in these and are from years long after 1946. The exhibit dudes will be able to confirm.

frankhardy 12-22-2022 04:19 PM

Well, I took this picture and uploaded it thinking it would be Ron Santo's rookie year, but he had a rookie card in 1961. Then I thought....Boog Powell. Nope! He had one in 1962. I went through the trouble of taking the picture.....I'm posting it!

I'm sure there is somebody on these 2 cards whose "alternative first card" would be featured in this picture.

FYI - these reside in my Cardinals collection - Julian Javier and Fred Whitfield. Fortunately there were no Cardinals on the Pete Rose counterpart. These are not exactly easy to find - 1964 Topps Rookie Banquet.

https://i.postimg.cc/FzkhG7QR/20221222_170728.jpg

Peter_Spaeth 12-22-2022 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2296722)
I’m pretty sure Newhouser was actually one of the cards carried into the 1947-1966 sets. Some of the 1939-1946’s were included in these and are from years long after 1946. The exhibit dudes will be able to confirm.

Same image but no "salutation" in the later printing?

G1911 12-22-2022 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2296771)
Same image but no "salutation" in the later printing?

Some of the cards were continued with the salutations line, as I understand it, like Ted Williams. Isn’t Newhouser in that group? I didn’t think his later exhibit was a 1948 replacement.

Peter_Spaeth 12-22-2022 07:30 PM

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Some of the cards were continued with the salutations line, as I understand it, like Ted Williams. Isn’t Newhouser in that group? I didn’t think his later exhibit was a 1948 replacement.

I may be misunderstanding you.

G1911 12-22-2022 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2296784)
I may be misunderstanding you.

Some of the cards with the “salutations” captions were continued after 1946, some of them for a long time after 1946.

I thought Newhouser was in that group of cards. One of the Exhibit experts probably knows better.

His Exhibit card without the caption, the one you’ve shown here. is a different card, which originated later that eventually replaced the captioned version or possibly printed alongside for a time. Don’t know which, probably the former.

Peter_Spaeth 12-22-2022 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2296792)
Some of the cards with the “salutations” captions were continued after 1946, some of them for a long time after 1946.

I thought Newhouser was in that group of cards. One of the Exhibit experts probably knows better.

His Exhibit card without the caption, the one you’ve shown here. is a different card, which originated later that eventually replaced the captioned version or possibly printed alongside for a time. Don’t know which, probably the former.

Well, for now I am just going to hope my particular card was issued in 48 or before. NFW am I buying a Leaf. LOL.

bobsbbcards 12-23-2022 07:03 AM

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Ernie (well, this is frustrating. I meant to post a Lou Brock alternate rookie card, but got confused and accidentally posted an eighth-year Ernie Banks “card”. I’m sort of stupid, but not that stupid. And Net54 doesn’t seem to give me an option to delete an attachment. Sigh.). :rolleyes:

bswhiten 12-23-2022 12:08 PM

-1978 NL ROY
-First Topps card 1979

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ledsters 12-23-2022 02:37 PM

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1978 Family Fun Centers Ozzie Smith

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rats60 12-23-2022 03:56 PM

1955 Golden Stamps Sandy Koufax along with 2 Topps RCs

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...83ec1e1f_w.jpg

JollyElm 12-23-2022 06:40 PM

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Ernie (well, this is frustrating. I meant to post a Lou Brock alternate rookie card, but got confused and accidentally posted an eighth-year Ernie Banks “card”. I’m sort of stupid, but not that stupid. And Net54 doesn’t seem to give me an option to delete an attachment. Sigh.). :rolleyes:

Not sure if you're being facetious (based on the emoji), but edit your post and hit 'Go Advanced.' Once there, under the paperclip icon, you'll be able to hit 'manage attachments' and remove/add whatever attachments you'd like to.

Mark70Z 12-30-2022 12:19 PM

Brooks Robinson
 
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Some of the alternative cards I like a whole lot better than their actual rookie cards.

This team issue postcard is the same pose as his '57 Topps card, but it's in the original B&W.

Baseball Rarities 12-31-2022 04:59 PM

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This 1955 Roberto Clemente postcard is one of my favorites. Not only it is signed by Clemente, but he actually addressed it too.

Not sure when they were originally issued, but this one is postmarked July 20, 1955, so definitely before then.

This very well could have been issued before his 1955 Topps rookie. Does anyone know when the 1955 Topps high-numbered cards were released?

Peter_Spaeth 01-01-2023 09:25 AM

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Wrong sport but I can do that on my own thread. Two years before his RC.

Big Red Machine 01-01-2023 10:52 AM

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Here are my contributions for rookie cards.

irv 01-01-2023 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jb67 (Post 2296719)
Great thread. Seeing some cool cardboard that I have never seen before. Here is my contribution to the thread.

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...issue-pc-psa-1

I'm embarrassed to say I don't remember who threw this pic in with a card purchase I made here yrs ago (my apologies) but I was wondering if you or others know exactly what it is, (what year, etc) and possible value?
Personally signed, I believe, Johnny Bench photo.

Peter_Spaeth 01-01-2023 04:21 PM

I would guess mid 70s on the Bench. He has a lot of team issues many look similar except I think the early 70s ones have the team name at the bottom.

phillyfan24 01-01-2023 04:41 PM

My favorite.


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