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CarltonHendricks 12-11-2022 04:29 PM

What team is this antique baseball plate
 
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jingram058 12-11-2022 06:09 PM

No earthly idea, but that breakfast sure looks good 👍 !

aelefson 12-11-2022 08:08 PM

I actually have that logo on another plate type item. I will post a picture tomorrow. Mine is marked Shenango Pottery CO New Castle PA on the bottom. I do not believe it is a specific team but I would love to be proven wrong. I bought mine at Brimfield earlier this year.

Alan

Hankphenom 12-11-2022 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jingram058 (Post 2292923)
No earthly idea, but that breakfast sure looks good 👍 !

Yeah, forget the plate, tell me where I can get that breakfast! I've seen pottery with that logo before, but don't know anything about it.

Presspins 12-12-2022 11:47 AM

plate
 
May be Detroit....

steve B 12-12-2022 01:45 PM

With the S I'm thinking it's college quick look turns up Stillman, and Salem university both of them use Tigers as the name.

I'm sure there are others, especially minor leagues.

bgar3 12-12-2022 03:19 PM

I wouldn’t rule out that it is just a generic design and the S could stand for shenango, the maker.

aelefson 12-12-2022 05:40 PM

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Here is mine. I will try to take a better photo of the bottom later in the week.

Alan

CarltonHendricks 12-12-2022 06:24 PM

interesting
 
Mine is marked on the bottom "Beamish Glass Ware"....like this one in a February 25th and 26th, 2005 Hunt Auction...If I recall I bought this maybe about four years ago at an antiques mall in Petaluma Ca...and I think I posted it on here and someone said what team it was....but I can't find the post...I'm thinking of calling in the marines on this ...perezfan / Mark Steinberg....for a clear answer...

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perezfan 12-12-2022 08:05 PM

There's certainly not much info on this china, but it appears that 2 different makers used this same design for Pennant Cafe (which appears to be the common thread here).

The Pennant Cafe was located in the basement of the Sexton Hotel and the adjoining Dixon Hotel (the Kling-Allen Building) in Kansas City, Mo. Apparently the entire restaurant was decked out in Baseball-themed decor. It must have been a sight to behold.

This Pennant Cafe China has been attributed to both Beamish Glass Ware and Shenango Pottery of New Castle, PA. The Shenango examples are thought to be circa 1910, according to an article I found. So perhaps Beamish was a secondary supplier, or both companies were contracted to produce this Baseball-themed china at different points in time.

perezfan 12-12-2022 08:08 PM

Found more great info on this...

The "Kling" from Kling-Allen Building was John Kling (former Catcher for the Chicago Cubs) who partnered with Benny Allen, to build the Hotel. See link below for more info and images...

https://rwcn-idwiki-2.restaurantware...ntent_category

ooo-ribay 12-12-2022 08:10 PM

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perezfan 12-12-2022 08:21 PM

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Below are some pertinent ads and articles about the Pennant Cafe, where this China was utilized. In the 4th article, it mentions that "Even the China, which is decorated with Baseball designs, is worth $3,500.00" (way back then!)

perezfan 12-12-2022 08:35 PM

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Final post, so Rob can get back to his bacon. :rolleyes:

CarltonHendricks 12-12-2022 11:02 PM

thanks Mark
 
WOW Mark...you sure blew a hole in that wall...thank you very much...Now I have a new project...this is along the lines of the Newman College....Excellent work my friend!!!!

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perezfan 12-12-2022 11:19 PM

Happy to help...

It was fun finding info and origins of this obscure Baseball China. Usually I hit a dead end on these things, so was pleased and surprised to find an answer!

jcmtiger 12-13-2022 08:05 AM

I had 2-3 pieces at one time. Sold at least 10 years ago.

Hankphenom 12-13-2022 03:56 PM

Carlton, I would still like to know who made that delicious-looking breakfast, and what is the idea behind putting these collectible plates in service to eat it on? I love functional collectibles of all kinds, but would have thought these well beyond the point (and value!) of the use for which they were intended.

aelefson 12-13-2022 06:46 PM

Thank you Mark for all of your research! I had no idea about the history behind these plates and I never expected it to be so interesting.

Alan

perezfan 12-13-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aelefson (Post 2293779)
Thank you Mark for all of your research! I had no idea about the history behind these plates and I never expected it to be so interesting.

Alan

Sure thing! Those pieces have a really cool history, and it was great to read up on the Pennant Cafe.

Just one more reason that someone needs to invent a time machine. I bet it was an amazing dining experience!

CarltonHendricks 12-13-2022 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2293701)
Carlton, I would still like to know who made that delicious-looking breakfast, and what is the idea behind putting these collectible plates in service to eat it on? I love functional collectibles of all kinds, but would have thought these well beyond the point (and value!) of the use for which they were intended.

I use that college fraternity one all the time…and the Detroit Yacht Club one…doesn’t hurt um…I was on a sports dinnerware kick for a while…Oh those are my pancakes and cooking…I make them with real buttermilk…I am the diner food king…burgers, chili-dogs, hash browns, etc....We don't have Steak and Shake out here in Calif so I make my own chili and 5-ways…But pancakes are more a once a week deal now if that…I cut down on sugar about five years ago…

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Hankphenom 12-13-2022 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CarltonHendricks (Post 2293785)
I use that college fraternity one all the time…and the Detroit Yacht Club one…doesn’t hurt um…I was on a sports dinnerware kick for a while…Oh those are my pancakes and cooking…I make them with real buttermilk…I am the diner food king…burgers, chili-dogs, hash browns, etc....We don't have Steak and Shake out here in Calif so I make my own chili and 5-ways…But pancakes are more a once a week deal now if that…I cut down on sugar about five years ago…

Very cool, eating off your collectibles. And if I had a diner with food as good as yours looks, I'd eat there every day!

WillowGrove 12-14-2022 10:35 PM

Great information Mark! Carlton...particularly good looking breakfast.

ooo-ribay 12-15-2022 06:20 AM

Try some sour cream in your pancakes, Carlton!

CarltonHendricks 12-16-2022 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2294249)
Try some sour cream in your pancakes, Carlton!

I'm on it....


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