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cgjackson222 11-01-2022 04:08 PM

Multiplayer rookie card trivia question
 
Name two Multiplayer Rookie cards from the 1970s where the players have a combined WAR of over 90, but none of them are in the Hall of Fame.

(There are probably more than two correct answers)

Kutcher55 11-01-2022 04:11 PM

I’m gonna go Baylor/Dusty Baker 71 and the Oglivy + Cecil Cooper card from 72.

Peter_Spaeth 11-01-2022 04:17 PM

Gene Tenace/Vida Blue?

Peter_Spaeth 11-01-2022 04:20 PM

I am also going with AL Bumbry/Dewey Evans who as I recall is in the 60s. I don't think either Baker or Baylor had that good a WAR.

G1911 11-01-2022 04:21 PM

Post 2 were the two that came to find mind first, alongside 1978 #708 that clears well over 100 WAR. Murphy, Parrish, Diaz, and Whitt.

Peter_Spaeth 11-01-2022 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2279497)
Post 2 were the two that came to find mind first, alongside 1978 #708 that clears well over 100 WAR. Murphy, Parrish, Diaz, and Whitt.

But that isn't Murphy's rookie card.

G1911 11-01-2022 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2279498)
But that isn't Murphy's rookie card.

It’s a multiplayer rookie card, so I thought it counted. I know he has a 77 as well.

I had to check Whittaker’s. As he has 75.1 WAR himself and is a WAR darling, the other 3 guys didn’t have to do much to clear 90. Alas, they did not do enough.

Peter_Spaeth 11-01-2022 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2279502)
It’s a multiplayer rookie card, so I thought it counted. I know he has a 77 as well.

I had to check Whittaker’s. As he has 75.1 WAR himself and is a WAR darling, the other 3 guys didn’t have to do much to clear 90. Alas, they did not do enough.

The 78 gets an asterisk then. :)
I don't think there are any cards with only rookies that qualify other than the two I named.

cgjackson222 11-01-2022 04:44 PM

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Wow Peter, that was incredibly fast.

Dwight Evans WAR is 67.2 and Alonza Bumbry’s WAR is 24.5

Gena Tenace’s WAR is 46.8 Vida Blue’s WAR is 45.1

Kutcher55 11-01-2022 04:48 PM

I just checked and it’s Oglivy cey not Cecil Cooper. Still think it could be right.

Evans/Bumbry sounds good as well.

I just came up with a rather obscure one. 77 topps Jack Clark RC, with him (53.1) Lee Mazzili (15.6) and Rupert Jones (22.6). Edit: Plus Dan Thomas (0.8)

G1911 11-01-2022 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2279504)
The 78 gets an asterisk then. :)
I don't think there are any cards with only rookies that qualify other than the two I named.

I’m happy to be wrong if it doesn’t meet the spirit of the query.

I knew Baker and Baylor weren’t WAR darlings but I’m surprised how low they actually rank. Whitaker or Grich are worth significantly more than both of them combined. That doesn’t seem right.

I’m also surprised to see Tenace is worth more than Blue. I always think of Blue as the primary guy on that card. Nice card for how cheap it is.

Kutcher55 11-01-2022 04:57 PM

I think the 75 Keith Hernandez meets the criteria again.

G1911 11-01-2022 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kutcher55 (Post 2279509)
I just checked and it’s Oglivy cey not Cecil Cooper. Still think it could be right.

Evans/Bumbry sounds good as well.

I just came up with a rather obscure one. 77 topps Jack Clark RC, with him (53.1) Lee Mazzili (15.6) and Rupert Jones (22.6). Edit: Plus Dan Thomas (0.8)

Jack Clark was a lot better than he gets credit for. Clever one to think of.

Peter_Spaeth 11-01-2022 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kutcher55 (Post 2279509)
I just checked and it’s Oglivy cey not Cecil Cooper. Still think it could be right.

Evans/Bumbry sounds good as well.

I just came up with a rather obscure one. 77 topps Jack Clark RC, with him (53.1) Lee Mazzili (15.6) and Rupert Jones (22.6). Edit: Plus Dan Thomas (0.8)

That's a good find, surprised Jones was that high.

cgjackson222 11-01-2022 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2279517)
That's a good find, surprised Jones was that high.

Yeah, that is a great find. Ruppert Jones putting up some nice numbers.

Kutcher55 11-01-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kutcher55 (Post 2279513)
I think the 75 Keith Hernandez meets the criteria again.

Actually this card just misses. Hernandez (60.3) plus Phil Garner (29.7) get to the 90 WAR criteria and Bob Sheldon contributed an additional 0.3 WAR in his short career. Unfortunately Tom Veryzer mucks the whole thing up with his abysmal minus 3.7 career WAR in 2,848 career ABs.

However if you trim Veryzer out of the card you’re left with an altered but authentic RC from the 70s with 90.3 WAR and no HOFers.

cgjackson222 11-02-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutcher55 (Post 2279566)
Actually this card just misses. Hernandez (60.3) plus Phil Garner (29.7) get to the 90 WAR criteria and Bob Sheldon contributed an additional 0.3 WAR in his short career. Unfortunately Tom Veryzer mucks the whole thing up with his abysmal minus 3.7 career WAR in 2,848 career ABs.

However if you trim Veryzer out of the card you’re left with an altered but authentic RC from the 70s with 90.3 WAR and no HOFers.

Haha, just remove Veryzer from the card. Poor Veryzer.


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