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rdwyer 09-16-2022 12:41 PM

Worst grading ever?
 
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What's the worst grading you've seen from any of the TPA's? I'll start with this amazing SGC9 that really is a SGC1. What kind of drugs was this grader on?

jingram058 09-16-2022 12:59 PM

Perhaps he/she was hungover, or going through withdrawal or the dt's that day. Or maybe having an LSD flashback.

luciobar1980 09-16-2022 01:38 PM

Are those corners like that possibly part of the design? Because they look both sharp and worn, which doesnt really make sense.

Jay Wolt 09-16-2022 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by luciobar1980 (Post 2264358)
Are those corners like that possibly part of the design? Because they look both sharp and worn, which doesnt really make sense.

Just checked ebay, here's a PSA-8 w/ nicer corners

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bbwAA...QR/s-l1600.jpg

BobbyStrawberry 09-16-2022 02:55 PM

PSA has done a lot of grading horribly off-center modern cards as 10s. That may be a reason why they're getting tougher

Jws57 09-16-2022 03:04 PM

I just posted this - and I think this is up there with one of THEE WORST.

https://youtube.com/shorts/8D7BRDOd950

Brian Van Horn 09-16-2022 03:19 PM

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jingram058 09-16-2022 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2264393)
PSA has done a lot of grading horribly off-center modern cards as 10s. That may be a reason why they're getting tougher

Doing a 180, as we used to say in the Navy?

swarmee 09-16-2022 04:12 PM

I would say the (1956 Topps?) Willie Mays or Roberto Clemente cards shown a couple of years ago with pinholes getting PSA 7s have to be in the discussion, as well as the recent grading by SGC of the T206 Honus Wagner with rounded corners as an SGC 5 EX have to be up there. https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ghlight=wagner

That's if you don't count the tens of thousands of trimmed cards in number grades just by PSA.

G1911 09-16-2022 04:15 PM

The Dover Connie Mack might be my favorite of the thousands of PSA incompetence or corruption grading jobs

GasHouseGang 09-16-2022 04:39 PM

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Obviously...

refz 09-16-2022 04:44 PM

Worst grading ever, no, but someone sure got hollered at!!

rdwyer 09-16-2022 05:46 PM

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Possible SGC9?

glynparson 09-17-2022 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2264428)
The Dover Connie Mack might be my favorite of the thousands of PSA incompetence or corruption grading jobs

Honestly this is probably the correct answer but if you think it got slabbed due to corruption you are a fool.

G1911 09-17-2022 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by glynparson (Post 2264588)
Honestly this is probably the correct answer but if you think it got slabbed due to corruption you are a fool.

Mhm. I don’t doubt the truth is that they are simply utterly incompetent.

Leon 09-17-2022 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 2264445)
Obviously...

I had lunch with the guy that put that card in that holder, yesterday. Long story....
.

Yoda 09-17-2022 10:48 AM

Maybe the grader is Arabic?

rdwyer 09-17-2022 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2264698)
Maybe the grader is Arabic?

The card is from Saudi Arabia.

Yoda 09-17-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rdwyer (Post 2264708)
The card is from Saudi Arabia.

So perhaps SGC needed an Arab to read the lettering and then grade it - perhaps even a Saudi National to award it with a spectacularly incorrect grade. This was nothing more than a dig at the TPG'ers.

rdwyer 09-17-2022 01:17 PM

Grading is done on condition, not what the card says. This card properly graded would've got a 1 from PSA.

GasHouseGang 09-17-2022 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2264638)
I had lunch with the guy that put that card in that holder, yesterday. Long story....
.

Can you share anything?

Rad_Hazard 09-17-2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rdwyer (Post 2264327)
What's the worst grading you've seen from any of the TPA's? I'll start with this amazing SGC9 that really is a SGC1. What kind of drugs was this grader on?

SGC is bad about the cases pressing on certain cards and this looks like more of the same. I bet the card is a 9 but the case is pressing on the corners resulting in this looking worse in a scan than it really is.

Steve D 09-17-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rdwyer (Post 2264708)
The card is from Saudi Arabia.


Bahrain, actually.

Manama is the capital of Bahrain.


Steve

ajquigs 09-17-2022 05:40 PM


https://youtu.be/y5W60VwDkas

rdwyer 09-17-2022 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rad_Hazard (Post 2264826)
SGC is bad about the cases pressing on certain cards and this looks like more of the same. I bet the card is a 9 but the case is pressing on the corners resulting in this looking worse in a scan than it really is.

I 've been through 13 of these cards/stamps. The SGC 9 pictured is not pressed on the corners. It's an unbelievable grading job by SGC. 10 of the ones I got graded, the grades were chopped 5 grades because of a dot. (Print defect). Other than that, they should've graded 7-9. SGC claims they want to be consistant. (We'll grade everything a 5 just to be safe lately).

bnorth 09-17-2022 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rdwyer (Post 2264753)
Grading is done on condition, not what the card says. This card properly graded would've got a 1 from PSA.

Key word for PSA is properly. They have probably mis graded more cards than SGC has graded.

steve B 09-19-2022 08:32 AM

Funny thing is that it's not even a card. It's a stamp.

From a country that makes or made money from selling stamps to collectors that were mostly never actually used on mail.

Many were middle eastern, and stamp guys refer to them collectively as "the dunes" Most of them did stuff like this, which were a sort of kelloggs ish 3d thing. The SGC 9 is either coming unbonded at the corners, or had something spilled on it that soaked in there.

A prime example of something that's sort of junk in the intended hobby, but much better in a different hobby.

luciobar1980 09-19-2022 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rdwyer (Post 2264327)
What's the worst grading you've seen from any of the TPA's? I'll start with this amazing SGC9 that really is a SGC1. What kind of drugs was this grader on?

Maybe this was some sort of clerical error. I find it hard to believe someone would logically grade it a 9. Either way, not good.

rdwyer 09-19-2022 04:54 PM

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Real Manama stamps. Not like the one posted.

The-Cardfather 09-20-2022 10:06 AM

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Here's my gripe, errr.... I mean submission.

I thought that this card should have graded at an 8 or 9, although a 7 wouldn't have shocked me.

But a 3? Come on!!!

mrreality68 09-20-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rdwyer (Post 2265385)
Real Manama stamps. Not like the one posted.

Very nice
I forgot about these
These are interesting pieces. I actually have the full set graded.

rdwyer 09-20-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2265581)
Very nice
I forgot about these
These are interesting pieces. I actually have the full set graded.

Where did you get them graded? I've looked everywhere.

clydepepper 09-20-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rdwyer (Post 2264327)
What's the worst grading you've seen from any of the TPA's? I'll start with this amazing SGC9 that really is a SGC1. What kind of drugs was this grader on?



Obviously, NOT the grader who was responsible for the harshly-graded Mantles I dumped on BST recently.

That said, I would rather have the harsher treatment, though I wish I had not invested so much in raw cards.


I think you should either

A)- send it back and demand a more accurate grade

or

B) Apply for a grader's job, perhaps, specifically THAT grader's job.


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Johnny T 09-20-2022 07:17 PM

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Not sure how this beauty came back as a "2"...open to suggestions...the back is just as clean...sorry I don't have a pic to attach at this time as I'm away

raulus 09-20-2022 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny T (Post 2265774)
Not sure how this beauty came back as a "2"...open to suggestions...the back is just as clean...sorry I don't have a pic to attach at this time as I'm away

Here’s the back from PSA’s scans.

I’m guessing the stain/bleeding print/water damage on the back has something to do with it.

Johnny T 09-20-2022 07:40 PM

Thank you for the addition of the back of the card...I love it regardless...don't care what the number assigned to card...


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