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pete zouras 03-27-2022 01:39 PM

Are '52 Topps with red writing on bio info rubbed off
 
worth any less than same version with the writing intact? Do graders downgrade cards that have it? If they are worth less, then how much? Any idea what caused it? I'll try and post a picture. Thanks

swarmee 03-27-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pete zouras (Post 2209457)
worth any less than same version with the writing intact? Do graders downgrade cards that have it? If they are worth less, then how much? Any idea what caused it? I'll try and post a picture. Thanks

Are you talking about through surface damage or print loss/misprinted? Both would be downgraded by a grader, but there are a bunch of people who like to pay extra for recurring print defects.

pete zouras 03-27-2022 02:01 PM

Like this one
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-...-127632-2357-0

ALR-bishop 03-27-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2209465)
Are you talking about through surface damage or print loss/misprinted? Both would be downgraded by a grader, but there are a bunch of people who like to pay extra for recurring print defects.

John- some of us may do it, but that does not mean we like it :)

JollyElm 03-27-2022 03:10 PM

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Just for clarification, the wording wasn't 'rubbed off.' There is simply too much red ink involved and it 'tidal-waved' where the white writing should be. Were the white letters actually rubbed off, there would be damage to the red as well, which isn't the case. It's a printing anomaly.

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irv 03-27-2022 03:58 PM

Ted Sherman (Republicanmass) recently had/has a card like this that he referred to the back as obliterated.

No idea if that is Ted's own word or if that is a hobby word, however?

Republicaninmass 03-27-2022 05:02 PM

I just made it up. I think they are cool. Nobody else cares


Well maybe Bishop. :D

JustinD 03-27-2022 05:18 PM

Simple answer, it should knock the grade down either way how the grader sees it. It would be a either a PD as a flaw for the over-inking or at minimum a knock for poor registration.

More difficult answer, some of us weirdos are drawn to print errors like this. For the 2% looking for these they may actually pay a premium (more drastic the impact the better). When I see cards like this my recommendation is always to not grade it.

G1911 03-27-2022 05:40 PM

It sure doesn't help the grade, but as a print defect, I pay a premium for them.

irv 03-27-2022 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 2209527)
I just made it up. I think they are cool. Nobody else cares


Well maybe Bishop. :D

Thanks for clarifying, Ted.
I was leaning towards the side of an actual hobby word. :D

steve B 03-28-2022 08:40 PM

Someone sure used too much ink that day... Or too little water. But I'd bet on too much ink.

Snowman 04-04-2022 11:56 PM

Just make sure you don't post this card on Blowhard. They'll unanimously conclude that it has been "recolored".


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