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rickalaska 03-06-2022 06:06 PM

FS: 1907 Dietsche TY COBB (Rookie) - Batting - Price Reduced
 
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FS: 1907 Dietsche TY COBB - Batting - Price Reduced

Reduced to $7,500 from $8,750.00 - Payment via PP F&F

Ungraded Rookie of the 12-Time Batting Champ - upper corner is the only distractor (upper corner appears colored/creased/paper loss at that point) of an otherwise real nice card. Based on the one upper corner alone, I suspect this card would grade PSA 1 or Authentic. The corner may have been reattached, but I can't tell). No other creases on the card, just slightly rounded corners, and minor chipping on edges. Overall eye-appeal is about 3.5

robertsmithnocure 03-07-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rickalaska (Post 2203040)
Ungraded Rookie of the 12-Time Batting Champ - upper corner is the only distractor of an otherwise real nice card

Nice looking rookie card. What is going on with the upper right corner? Do you think that it would receive a numerical grade for PSA or SGC?

Aquarian Sports Cards 03-07-2022 11:36 AM

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rickalaska 03-07-2022 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 2203258)
Nice looking rookie card. What is going on with the upper right corner? Do you think that it would receive a numerical grade for PSA or SGC?

Rob,

I added more descriptive info with the card listing - thanks for your inquiry

JMANOS 03-07-2022 04:46 PM

card won't grade
 
Card has been altered they'll will see that in the black light.. The wording stops on the reverse.

Jstottlemire1 03-07-2022 07:15 PM

Spot on the example will not grade. Not bad eye appeal but altered.

Leon 03-08-2022 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rickalaska (Post 2203040)
FS: 1907 Dietsche TY COBB - Batting

$8,750.00 - Payment via PP F&F

Ungraded Rookie of the 12-Time Batting Champ - upper corner is the only distractor (upper corner appears colored/creased/paper loss at that point) of an otherwise real nice card. Based on the one upper corner alone, I suspect this card would grade PSA 1 or Authentic. The corner may have been reattached, but I can't tell). No other creases on the card, just slightly rounded corners, and minor chipping on edges. Overall eye-appeal is about 3.5

Hey Rick
Great looking card first of all. I am curious how we know it's from 1907 and not 1908 as the corner that is recolored is where the date is supposed to be?

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ullmandds 03-08-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2203676)
Hey Rick
Great looking card first of all. I am curious how we know it's from 1907 and not 1908 as the corner that is recolored is where the date is supposed to be?

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i do not think there is a way to differentiate this copy as from 1907.

ullmandds 03-08-2022 05:57 PM

i thought the 1908 had name printed on it?

rickalaska 03-08-2022 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2203676)
Hey Rick
Great looking card first of all. I am curious how we know it's from 1907 and not 1908 as the corner that is recolored is where the date is supposed to be?

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Read the paragraph on the back - the last line talks of how he is leading the league in batting for the 1907 season.

There is some paper loss on the back of that corner - not sure what is going on with it. If a guy was going to replace a lost corner, you would think they would have clipped a corner from card from the same set - that side writing is the same in all the Detroit cards.

rickalaska 03-08-2022 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2203690)
i do not think there is a way to differentiate this copy as from 1907.

Hi Pete,

Yes there is a way to differentiate between a 1907 and 1908 - read the last line of the text on the backside - talks of Cobb - "He is almost sure of leading the American League in batting for the season of 1907."

rickalaska 03-08-2022 07:11 PM

1907 vs. 1908 Deitsche - Ty Cobb
 
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Here is a side by side comparison of the 1907 and 1908 Ty Cobb Dietsche postcards. The 1907 is the one with the 1907 in the text (and where the corner is bad on my card) and the 1908 has a different paragraph and also shows 1908 along the left edge after the words "Detroit, Mich.".

insidethewrapper 03-08-2022 07:37 PM

1908 cards have the name printed on the front, 1907 don't. Cobb is in "white" , since he was also in the first series in 1907. If a player was not in the first series in 1907 , their 1908 card has the name on the front of the postcard in "Black ".

Baseball Rarities 03-09-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper (Post 2203741)
1908 cards have the name printed on the front, 1907 don't. Cobb is in "white" , since he was also in the first series in 1907. If a player was not in the first series in 1907 , their 1908 card has the name on the front of the postcard in "Black ".

I do not mean to hijack Rick's thread, but 1908 cards sometimes come without the names printed on the front. Here is an example of a Cobb. (not mine)

mrreality68 03-09-2022 01:21 PM

Great looking card and interesting follow up about the year of it and how to tell

insidethewrapper 03-09-2022 02:19 PM

The back of the 1908 card with the " no white Name" on the front also has a different type set. The lines end with different words but the same text.

I also have seen 2 types of 1908 "White Name " Cobb cards. One type with the Name "Cobb" in the shadow and one type with the "Cobb" white name outside the shadow. A lot of changes at the printers.


By the way , why is the Cobb card that was graded by Beckett listed as # 18 ??????

rickalaska 03-23-2022 09:06 PM

Price Reduced to $7,500


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